New Dock costs

[Quovatis]

Happy to see the big cost reduction. But 2 days and 4 workers is still too long for troops. 1 day is more reasonable. I still don't think I can justify using 4 workers over 2 days for a single Global-age troop (there are no Atomic age troops at dock).

That said, the short offers of 6 and 12 hours are great for using those spare 2 workers while you sleep to get some extra NTGs.

 

[LordJestix]

Happy to see the big cost reduction. But 2 days and 4 workers is still too long for troops. 1 day is more reasonable. I still don't think I can justify using 4 workers over 2 days for a single Global-age troop (there are no Atomic age troops at dock).

That said, the short offers of 6 and 12 hours are great for using those spare 2 workers while you sleep to get some extra NTGs.

Except i never have 2 spare workers. For players like me that only keep 1 spare worker for walls, the dock is still 98% useless.

 

[Quovatis]

You can get it down to 1 worker with research in library

 

[LordJestix]

Ok, then that would change things a bit.

 

[Glacier]

OMFG! They lengthened the level 1 & 2 dock times! What? Enticement to upgrade? Hell everyone but me has them upgraded! Truth be told the majority of this game upgrades their docks! I rarely see them in attacks not upgraded.

Why haven't I upgraded you ask? Crowns! There are no crowns after level 2. When ya up to level 3 ya lose level 1 expeditions and so forth on up to max level. Why not just let all the cities stay in the expeditions and improve the level of troops as those dock levels increase?

And hurry up with the Wikia edit please, I wanna see if its still an intelligent move to even upgrade it.

 

[MartinK12]

Agree and disagree at the same time
It's not bad, but it can always be better like I wrote here:
https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexo...07-return-to-the-high-seas-expedition-balance

Thank You TinSoldier ​​​​​​, ​I appreciate dock update - finally it's worth to spend some citizens for this feature

If I could suggest 2 more things
1. DOCK
With increased dock level all expeditions from previous dock levels should be still available. When someone is IA, GA or AA that means he is stuck in the same age for months, up to 2 years, which means he has same boring expeditions non-stop. It would be nice to have all expeditions available to bring some freshness to dock. I think we should have 5 slots and draw those 5 expeditions from all available expeditions since dock level 1 to current dock level.
I'd like to see those cheap troop tactics from dock levels 1-3 in high level war just for fun, or use them in PvP battles more often.

2. UNIVERSITY MEANINGLESS RESEARCHES - It's the similar problem as with docks so I wrote about it here:
https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexo...ests/597781-university-meaningless-researches

 

[Festivus]

In my AA account I'm definitely seeing an improvement; I like the 6 hour / 1 worker expeditions, and 3 worker/2 day for S35 tank army is maybe worth it (I have the library research done). But in GA and IA alts it's still not really worth it. I gues it's only really good if you've got the library research done.

 

[Quovatis]

The biggest issue with the Dock troops is that they are really inferior to event or paid-for cards. You only get 1 or 2 troops per card with the dock, where you can get easily double that from other cards. I would like to see a re-balance of the troops offered in the Dock and add Atomic-age troops as well.

If they are competitive with other cards, then I can see spending 2 days getting them, but not right now. Do I choose one industrial age artillery from the dock or a card with 4 Atomic age howitzers? Easy choice.

 

[LordJestix]

The biggest issue with the Dock troops is that they are really inferior to event or paid-for cards. You only get 1 or 2 troops per card with the dock, where you can get easily double that from other cards. I would like to see a re-balance of the troops offered in the Dock and add Atomic-age troops as well.

If they are competitive with other cards, then I can see spending 2 days getting them, but not right now. Do I choose one industrial age artillery from the dock or a card with 4 Atomic age howitzers? Easy choice.

the thing is, this option still really doesnt help against the p2w. 2 days for 1 card?? so you can get 3 a week. Thats not even enough for 1 war attack a week.

Even with the library research, i wont use the dock unless its 1 worker only and can be done over night. if it takes longer than 12 hours i wont do it as it keeps me from upgrading my walls.

 

[Manifesto]

People complaining about the dock taking too long for expeditions or using too many workers or taking too long to upgrade are shortsighted.
The dock, like the uni or library, is an investment. Stop thinking about the payment, think long term about what you're going to get out of it.
Sure, it might be hard to get the resources but it's a one-off payment.

 

[LordJestix]

the time + worker cost is not worth the investment in what you get.

BHG may see a slight increase in the use of the dock but i doubt it really increases much at all.

 

[KniferX]

I don't know about you but being able to get a peace treaty from the dock for 1 day investment only, is going to prove very beneficial for oil raiding. A great step in the right direction in my opinion to make the expedition times shorter. Along with other things included like ruby sales, it's obvious that Nexon somewhat responded to the player backlash against the recent movement to p2w elements.
At least this is way better than being ignored and nothing changing for the better.

 

[British Coffee]

I think dock is still pretty much useless due to the system of this game. Due to ridiculous upgrade times, You really can't afford to spend workers on dock because they are already upgrading some 10+ day building which has higher priority over expedition. Only way it can actually have higher priority over those upgrades would be something like expedition to BHG and nexon headquarters that give Elephant archers and Bazooka towers

 

[Motaz Tarek]

not about the cost, it's about the benefit, if it's worth i gladly put my citizens into work, see above comments u will know that troop cards are pretty bad and not worth

 

[Manifesto]

Motaz Tarek , one mans trash is another mans treasure. You might think they're worthless but I find them useful.
The one thing I think Nexon got wrong was increasing the times for lower ages. Not cool.

 

[Glacier]

Omg! Memphis is a 2day expedition for 3 crowns now. Nexy, why punish lower ages because the atomic crybabies stormed your Castle?

 

[Manifesto]

I think you already know if it's intelligent or not.

 

[Quovatis]

Omg! Memphis is a 2day expedition for 3 crowns now. Nexy, why punish lower ages because the atomic crybabies stormed your Castle?

I got 30 crowns as the extra bonus from sending a general on a 12 hour expedition. You can still get plenty of crown rewards.

 

[LordJestix]

i still havent found an expedition that im able to do.

 

[Manifesto]

Fine, save your workers. I'm always happy to get something for free.
Maybe I'll introduce my lacklustre dock troops to your base sometime soon.