Nothing new but Sandbagging is almost common practice.

[Telemark948]

I can't remember the last time we got matched with another alliance that didn't have the bottom 4 -5 players ridiculously low and never show. The last war, their bottom 4 hadn't bbeen online in 3 weeks, but you can still pick them as TEAM players. This is an old story and plenty of posts, but something should be done. Is it that important that you have to bend the rules, come on. As an alliance we have sent numerous messages to CS, but nothing....

Plus what is it with players with 4 level 50 generals and everything maxed out, either you have very deep pockets or obvious cheats. It's not hard for NEXON to scan for players XP against money spent, start banning accounts......Rant over.

 

[sinner]

Sandbagging seems to be encouraged by Nexon it seems. Warring in this game sucs azz.

 

[Angel forever]

It’s time to move on past this. There’s nothing that can be done

 

[HawkEyeHK]

The sandbagging issue will never be able to solved unless Nexon finally admit their crazy ridiculous match-making algorithm doesnt work correctly.
If the "Glory" is never taken into consideration in match-making, I just don't see there is any needs for alliances to give up the sandbagging habit.

 

[Houkai]

Why don't you start sandbagging yourselves and stop $&%#%& complaining? Sandbagging is NOT against the rules. Never was, never will be. It's simply a side effect of a flawd idea game developers have which is 'No one left behind'. The idea where a CWA player can be in the same war with their IA friend. You should realise that this is imposible to fix as there is nothing to fix to begin with. It was a good intention that players love to abuse to the maximum. So please drill this into your heads - IT IS BY DESIGN!

***education time over***

 

[Elton Trudeau]

could't this be fixed by allowing alliances to first accept a war with another alliance after they see that Alliances lineup? a ACCEPT or REJECT option would be wonderful

 

[Equal]

it will stop wars at all. noone would even try to war against a risky opponent. to include a "legal" attack function would be enough. e.g. how in a hell alliance with minimum age ea, can attack irons or classicals on war? it should not be alowed, so baggers would only meet baggers. and evenly spread alliance's strenght wouldn't be enough to match baggers alliances..

 

[S_How]

Its a terrible experience. The best strategy in war is to sandbag. Its not to design your base well, advance your troops/upgrade your buildings or bring your most skilled players to war.....its simply to create an alt iron age account and put them in every war so that mismatches occur, rather than great warring.

Its really not a hard problem to fix, so many easy solutions have been presented. It just gets worse and worse with every age. For everyone that says 'why dont you do it yourself', I dont really feel like having war outcomes determined by who sandbagged more, and I definitely dont want to take on teams that might not sandbag and are 30-40 levels beneath us. It is a sad state that it still exists, and is rewarded so heavily. Right now we are in a war with 15 cwa/6 aa/4 iron ages...its enough to skew the average level of the top 21 players by over 30. A completely meaningless match.

Dominations still remains the only base building/team warring game that rewards teams for bringing alt accounts that never play to war, rather than skilled, paying players. And the developers have been afraid to confront this, and many other critical problems for over a year.

 

[Festivus]

Exactly. Was about to post the same thing, but you said it better than I could have. Stop wasting CS time with complaints about this, it's not a problem, it's part of the game. Learn how to play your matchmaking, or learn to love losing.

And Nexon did, BTW, "do something" about this. Sandbagging teams get A LOT less glory for sandbag wars than they otherwise would. It may significantly increase your odds of winning the war, but you're not going to get much glory for it.

 

[Esiebert7625]

If you can't beat em, join em, its highly doubtful that matchmaking will ever change, at some point you have to do what everyone else is doing and then things become more even again. I believe sandbagging is here to stay and if you dont want crazy lopsided matchups you have to suck it up and do it also. Also important to engineer your bases so you prioritize offense over defense to optimize your war weight and make sure you can attack near your position in war or preferrably higher.

 

[Mcnasty]

So everyone should just be sandbaggers? I’ve had one war against sandbaggers out of about 15 and we still kicked their ass. Sandbagging doesn’t garrintee a win. It just makes you look like you suck at the game cause you can’t win fairly. So bring on the unskillful players cause if you got a good team it won’t matter. Sandbagging is just another way to say you suck at the game.

 

[Esiebert7625]

Sandbagging is a strategy, sucking is a personal preference

 

[Bedlam]

Sandbagging is a strategy, sucking is a personal preference

Ha....that actually made me laugh

 

[Vixen]

Before CWA came out we were holding our own against the 20 aa and 5 bag model... its a time of adjustment and we all have to have patience and endurance (and late night oil grinding) and mid level alliances will be able to compete again... we are learning skills whilst they are just crowning up

 

[Lord P]

Only issue with that is that mid level alliances could complete because their rushed atomics could take out the opponents high level atomic bases. Now that those opposition atomics have crowned up to high level CWA bases, our rushed atomics are much less effective, and the lvl 220 CW cap means it’ll take forever for those rushed AA bases to get near CWA offensive troops....

 

[Vixen]

So true.... I have jumped from lvl 203 to lvl 214 quickly now the hard slog... out poor lvl 160’s who could hit high don’t have a hope

 

[Lord P]

It’s a real shame. It’s widened the gap between the top pay2win sandbagging alliances and everyone else, which I suspect was the whole point - I think Nexon just do what alliances like Korea army tell them to do, they’re paying the bills afterall!