Riccardo
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Riders everywhere. Not funny anymore, I'm gonna quit if it keeps going on like that
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Gotta admit - I have barracks full of praetorian guards, dragoon raiders and wall miners.
I hit players that are mostly lower levels than I am. But when I check in after not getting on line for a bit, I've generally been hit 8+ times and have earned some crowns for defense.
It's fun!!! I love playing this way. Building is soooo slow (4-5 days to build defenses ... ugh) so you gotta do something to fill in the gaps.
I'm just glad no one here used the old "that's not in the spirit of the game" expression. You build your empire the best way you see fit.
And by the way, I'm at experience 95 with 240 medals... HAHAHAHAHA!
And also by the way, while I was typing this, I got attacked although I didn't earn any crowns.
I hit players that are mostly lower levels than I am. But when I check in after not getting on line for a bit, I've generally been hit 8+ times and have earned some crowns for defense.
It's fun!!! I love playing this way. Building is soooo slow (4-5 days to build defenses ... ugh) so you gotta do something to fill in the gaps.
I'm just glad no one here used the old "that's not in the spirit of the game" expression. You build your empire the best way you see fit.
And by the way, I'm at experience 95 with 240 medals... HAHAHAHAHA!
And also by the way, while I was typing this, I got attacked although I didn't earn any crowns.
I would love to just do proper attacks and not raids all the time, but with a 15 minute wait for a lost cannon, or 14 for a healing cart (with stupid AI for both at times), there is just no way to continuously raid with them. Failing to get every defensive building means an hour wait to rebuild, and even losing a cannon or two means 15 minutes minimum. Plus tactics, if I need any to prevent some troops from dying, take ~45 minutes each.
With raiders, I can do 5+ battles in a row, no tactics, for about the same loot per battle that I can with a full wipe on my war troop mix. And then rebuild and do it again in 20 minutes. That is often targeting abandoned bases (with full and undefended farms, roads and sometimes even oil wells), but active ones are fine too if convenient.
And as others have said - if you want a peace treaty, happy to provide one if you leave your TC exposed.
A few potential fixes I can see, all seem unlikely:
Make league bonuses meaningful, and have them be a function of the stars achieved. For instance, in silver league, make it 5,000 per star, doubled if you get 5 stars - so up to 50,000 for a five star victory. Then double that in gold, quadruple in kingdom, etc. Suddenly, leagues are meaningful again and raids are less common. And people have a reason to go for five stars outside of war. This could also include some sort of significant reduction for fighting people more then 30 levels below you, or a bonus for going that far above.
Reduce the cost of upgrades, so I don't need to save 5+million 2-300k at a time. I can't do that in a reasonable time frame without raids - not enough from full battles, and waiting for farms and caravans to provide it is a joke. It is less fun and more of a grind at times to keep enough resources to keep things moving, but at least the raids are quick.
Shorten the training times and reduce costs for the heavier units. If I could rebuild my full war style army in 20 minutes including 2 or more tactics, I would be much more inclined to attack that way. When protect was at 25% of its build time last weekend, I did that and used 1-2 per battle to improve my survival rates.
Those might eat away at Nexon's "sell you crowns" revenue stream - but this is a year+ old game, and player retention becomes a concern.
With raiders, I can do 5+ battles in a row, no tactics, for about the same loot per battle that I can with a full wipe on my war troop mix. And then rebuild and do it again in 20 minutes. That is often targeting abandoned bases (with full and undefended farms, roads and sometimes even oil wells), but active ones are fine too if convenient.
And as others have said - if you want a peace treaty, happy to provide one if you leave your TC exposed.
A few potential fixes I can see, all seem unlikely:
Make league bonuses meaningful, and have them be a function of the stars achieved. For instance, in silver league, make it 5,000 per star, doubled if you get 5 stars - so up to 50,000 for a five star victory. Then double that in gold, quadruple in kingdom, etc. Suddenly, leagues are meaningful again and raids are less common. And people have a reason to go for five stars outside of war. This could also include some sort of significant reduction for fighting people more then 30 levels below you, or a bonus for going that far above.
Reduce the cost of upgrades, so I don't need to save 5+million 2-300k at a time. I can't do that in a reasonable time frame without raids - not enough from full battles, and waiting for farms and caravans to provide it is a joke. It is less fun and more of a grind at times to keep enough resources to keep things moving, but at least the raids are quick.
Shorten the training times and reduce costs for the heavier units. If I could rebuild my full war style army in 20 minutes including 2 or more tactics, I would be much more inclined to attack that way. When protect was at 25% of its build time last weekend, I did that and used 1-2 per battle to improve my survival rates.
Those might eat away at Nexon's "sell you crowns" revenue stream - but this is a year+ old game, and player retention becomes a concern.
Riccardo
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Well have to say, 1000 crowns is not a big number, I'm always around 12/1300 somethimes 1400.
Acrually I'm quite ok with everything Yemen and theoldstone said, at first, we arr talking about 1 year and half ago, I used to attack only with riders, but nexon did what was necessary to reduce their power in order to convince players to use a real army. And they made it!
now I see things going back to where they tried to fix at that period. Dont know why actually but to tell you the truth, considering time and resources, raiders are the best way to obtain maximun using the minimum. Sadly.
But I dont see why it is funny, I mean, if everyone think like that, and considering how many riders attack I'm getting, it will just become a game in which the player has to hurry up as much as he can just to obtain what he needs in that very moment and use it on the go. No long term strategy of collect resources.
Acrually I'm quite ok with everything Yemen and theoldstone said, at first, we arr talking about 1 year and half ago, I used to attack only with riders, but nexon did what was necessary to reduce their power in order to convince players to use a real army. And they made it!
now I see things going back to where they tried to fix at that period. Dont know why actually but to tell you the truth, considering time and resources, raiders are the best way to obtain maximun using the minimum. Sadly.
But I dont see why it is funny, I mean, if everyone think like that, and considering how many riders attack I'm getting, it will just become a game in which the player has to hurry up as much as he can just to obtain what he needs in that very moment and use it on the go. No long term strategy of collect resources.
