Rigid medal system aka The Story About 1/39

[Max_imus]

The title says it all.The medal system of DomiNations is totally screwed!
In case someone never were above Gold I league I will make a brief description. Once you reach around 1900-2000 medals,you notice that medal rewards for a 5 star win start to decrease significantly.(IMO that would be fine in a scenario I will describe later) You will mostly get 3-8 medals for a victory with exceptions of 1 or OTOH 25.Thats doable if you have a lot of time to next about 5-10 battles. The things starting to get ridiculous when you reach Kingdom II and Kingdom I.There comes the 1/39 syndrome.It means that one freakin loss is the same weight as your 39 wins,cool isnt it?
I will state examples.My empire campaign was brutally slowed when I reached Kingdom I.From 800 medals to 2000 - took 2 days,2000-2400 3 days,2400-2500 5 days with roughly the same amount of time a day.
Next example is that in 2400-2500 I avereged 40-70 nexting bases of my battle because of those 70 opponents around 50 were for 1 medal,15 were for 2-3 medals and 4 were cheaters (maxed walls and 190lvls),the last one was a guy with 15-25 medals who I was able to fight.

I say **** all those Gold I and Kingdom III for 1 medal,why the heck when Im hundreds of medals above them the game shows me this bases? I dont care about wasting my time and army on ridiculous 1 medal (when I can 1 star it and gain the same amount LOL!!!)
The engine should show us only one or two league down (e.g. if you are Empire II then show Empire III or above) and not waste our training and tactics blessing nexting 40+ bases for 1 freakin battle.

PS: my record streak is 19 consecutive 1/39,what is yours?

 

[Fable]

I have the same problem, the highest medal count I've ever had was around 2500, then I lost around 600 medals in a 2 & 1/2 -3 week period because of lost connection issues = their server. Now I'll raid for an hour maybe get 20-30 medals then have those same medals taken when I log off and get attacked 1 time.

I have no idea how some ppl have 4000+ medals, I am sure it's legit...sure. But it's extremely frustrating to say the least.

Check out my recent post about Lost Medals in this General Discussion section, b warned it's quite lengthy, lol.

 

[Mythic]

The title says it all.The medal system of DomiNations is totally screwed!

The engine should show us only one or two league down (e.g. if you are Empire II then show Empire III or above) and not waste our training and tactics blessing nexting 40+ bases for 1 freakin battle.

PS: my record streak is 19 consecutive 1/39,what is yours?

There wouldn't be bases to attack then! Hence no opponent issue in empire.

 

[Max_imus]

There wouldn't be bases to attack then! Hence no opponent issue in empire.

Yep,Im aware of that, but I think its still better to wait few minutes for an opponent than to pointlessly nexting 10 minutes thru 1/39 bases,hard to say, both situations sux

any other empire player to share his opinion?(im only soon-to-bee, or I hope so!)

btw since which empire class there is an no opponent issue?

 

[Christopher-Outlaws!!]

Mythic, I'm pretty sure Outlaws!! has fought you hello.

I think the metric should be better at isolating base levels. ie. a global that runs me over should not have the ability to get > 5 Medals on my base, regardless of how well they do or their medal count. this is my latest frustration. Further to this, the loot available to a Global attacking an Industrial should be less; not able to get 3k of my oil.

furthermore revenge should allow the increased medals regardless of users age/level. If you 5 star me and are a global, you can have your 5 stars, but a successful revenge should offer me more than 1 star.

these are just my opinions based on my experience, and I've only ever managed to get up to 2100(current).

 

[Mythic]

Yep,Im aware of that, but I think its still better to wait few minutes for an opponent than to pointlessly nexting 10 minutes thru 1/39 bases,hard to say, both situations sux

any other empire player to share his opinion?(im only soon-to-bee, or I hope so!)

btw since which empire class there is an no opponent issue?

I've spent a few weeks in empire. In my opinion its not worth it. Rather annoying actually. I prefer to play than worry about medals. But yeah, both situations suck. Now only if players were more evenly distributed among leagues.

 

[Mythic]

Hey Chris I'm pretty sure Royal Canadian hasn't played you (though we have played a couple of alliance I've seen on forum).
I absolutely agree the metric should be better.

 

[sponge]

I was in Empire 2 for a few months. No opponent started happening in Kingdom 1 already. It wasn't bad in Empire 3, but it started really pissing me off in Empire 2. I couldn't get past 2850 medals, all I got were 1/-39, even the cheater bases, and every time I got attacked I was losing 30+. So I said screw it and dropped all medals. Now I bully those newbie industrial bases, no stress, all fun.

 

[Max_imus]

I've spent a few weeks in empire. In my opinion its not worth it. Rather annoying actually. I prefer to play than worry about medals. But yeah, both situations suck. Now only if players were more evenly distributed among leagues.

I agree that its not worth it (and Im not even empire III).Im going for those sweet 1000 crowns and then preparing for the biggest looting party ever (Empires and Kingdomers defensive medals incoming! )
League bonuses are too low.100k in empire III is nice,but it should be at least 200k imo...in silver you can easily loot 200k without tactics lol

 

[Eddie F1]

I'm at 2727 as of now, was 2752 this morning. Was down at 2400 a few weeks ago thanks to being locked out for 8 days. Haven't bumped into No Opponent much yet.

I am doing the next,next,next until I find a base with 20+ medals and treat it like WW, all in, mercs, tactics, ally troop, doing 2 or 3 battles day as peace treaties expire. Since getting to Global and it's snail paced drudgery, playing as little as possible is my aim, but that 3200 achievement beckons.

The 1/39 medal system has been complained about for over a year, along with it's sisters, matchmaking and No Opponent. It seems loosely based on the Elo Rating system used in chess. I'm no great chess player but chess does seem to be 100% skill and this game is 99% who has the biggest army/tactics/generals/mercs/latest hack/pile of crowns.

I'd guess that most of the high medal players got there back in the Golden Era of Motos, preferably French, TB running, moto army + 6 wall breakers in 3 minutes, hit & run a TC, grab some loot, go again. But that fun was nerfed out of existence.

The only way to the top is either cheat or pay. Crown an army/blessings/tactics, next, next, next for some medals, rinse & repeat.

This game is an entire catalogue of missed opportunities but BHG would rather dick around with useless Pirate camps and teapot collections than fix the broken fundamentals. AI, pathfinding, cheats, matchmaking, medals/scoring, alliance features, non-existent economy, No Opponent Found, crashes - it would be quicker to name a single game feature that was nicely balanced and worked properly, but I can't think of one.

 

[Eddie F1]

110k actually and a whopping 165 oil

 

[Ravenlord]

PS: my record streak is 19 consecutive 1/39,what is yours?

Actually it can be better Maximus. As Eddie does, in my time around 2500 l just nexted to find a 12+ or 20+ base, battled once or twice and then logged off. When someone sniped my exposed tc they got (on average) 6-8 medals and l got some peace. I was able to stay here comfortably with 1-2 attacks each morning & night. If you're playing more actively you should be able to climb easily enough.

The trick is to be picky with your attacks - forget the paltry 1 or 2s - and don't worry about the coins you're wasting - at that level the league rewards more than compensate.

Ps: my +1 streak was probably 1 !!

 

[Norcaltone]

Eddie why don't you just q

 

[Norcaltone]

Just quit the game again and then we'd be free of your constant negativity. Anyone who yearns for the "golden age of Motos" and thought that was fun shouldn't be playing this game anyway. Go chase some kids off your lawn or something.

 

[Max_imus]

Just quit the game again and then we'd be free of your constant negativity. Anyone who yearns for the "golden age of Motos" and thought that was fun shouldn't be playing this game anyway. Go chase some kids off your lawn or something.

Lol he didnt say it was fun,dont make up things brother.And everyone does not need to pretend to be super happy with what he does in leisure time,so back off...

 

[Max_imus]

I meant matchup streak - what was offered to you to attack . I dont snipe TC often, I do it almost like Eddie.There is tactic I invented for myself last week and it takes about 2-3 hours a day.Its a lot of time but I just wanted to get into Empire asap and than drop back down . I can pm it to you if you want, but I think you are not interested anymore in climbing leagues

 

[Ravenlord]

I wouldn't say that - 3200 is still in my sights - but only (probably) after I've maxed global and nuclear is a few more months away.

 

[Max_imus]

Thats my plan to, but considering time upgrades it looks it will be around christmas or later

 

[Max_imus]

I'm at 2727 as of now, was 2752 this morning. Was down at 2400 a few weeks ago thanks to being locked out for 8 days. Haven't bumped into No Opponent much yet.

I am doing the next,next,next until I find a base with 20+ medals and treat it like WW, all in, mercs, tactics, ally troop, doing 2 or 3 battles day as peace treaties expire. Since getting to Global and it's snail paced drudgery, playing as little as possible is my aim, but that 3200 achievement beckons.

The 1/39 medal system has been complained about for over a year, along with it's sisters, matchmaking and No Opponent. It seems loosely based on the Elo Rating system used in chess. I'm no great chess player but chess does seem to be 100% skill and this game is 99% who has the biggest army/tactics/generals/mercs/latest hack/pile of crowns.

I'd guess that most of the high medal players got there back in the Golden Era of Motos, preferably French, TB running, moto army + 6 wall breakers in 3 minutes, hit & run a TC, grab some loot, go again. But that fun was nerfed out of existence.

The only way to the top is either cheat or pay. Crown an army/blessings/tactics, next, next, next for some medals, rinse & repeat.

This game is an entire catalogue of missed opportunities but BHG would rather **** around with useless Pirate camps and teapot collections than fix the broken fundamentals. AI, pathfinding, cheats, matchmaking, medals/scoring, alliance features, non-existent economy, No Opponent Found, crashes - it would be quicker to name a single game feature that was nicely balanced and worked properly, but I can't think of one.

Lol I must check what the ELO rating means, but it seems not really fitting for a game like DomiNations!

But I cant agree with your second point about cheating/paying.Even if it was ten times slower in Empire than Kigdom then with my pace I should be in Dynasty in 10 weeks,which is brutal but not impossible

 

[leetillu]

I would love to downvote your post... lucky for you I can't...
Eddie just states what's wrong and right with the game and the devs.

Yes it's negative, but that's just the reality he's pointing at.