United allies vs Cheater elite
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FroggyKilla
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Maybe they hacked the crowns.... But in all seriousness cheating is fucking stupid. But I think you can get that amount of gold deposits, but they somehow last infinitely -.-
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K IVAN U GOT IT
SO U WANT TO SEE HOW ITS DONE ... Ur choice pick 20 players from our alliance ... Pick another 20 from urs .. Any of ur 20 players with our 20 players u can even select the players u want ... Let's have a rebattle . We Ll show how it's done ...HOW HARD HITTERS OUR ENTIRE PLAYERS ARE
SO U WANT TO SEE HOW ITS DONE ... Ur choice pick 20 players from our alliance ... Pick another 20 from urs .. Any of ur 20 players with our 20 players u can even select the players u want ... Let's have a rebattle . We Ll show how it's done ...HOW HARD HITTERS OUR ENTIRE PLAYERS ARE
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I'm not saying or claiming your entire alliance is a cheat. Never have... But if your alliance does harbor cheats then you don't have any superiority in calling out other alliances for cheating.
Jeez, instead of just being forthright with the cheaters in your alliance and removing them to save face your busy doing mental gymnastics trying to rationalize how you otherwise won a non-competitive war and that these bases are legit or otherwise they'd be banned. And you seriously claim you're an honest alliance. Can't have your cake and eat it too...
Our Elite alliances pride themselves in being cheater free and honest. I know it's difficult in the top alliances where it can be tempting to accept suspicious players, but you better protect your reputation if you have one worth keeping. In the end, all I'm saying is that if your going claim a moral authority over cheating alliances then you better not be one yourself.
Either get off your high horse and embrace the dark side or clean up your alliance like it's advertised
Jeez, instead of just being forthright with the cheaters in your alliance and removing them to save face your busy doing mental gymnastics trying to rationalize how you otherwise won a non-competitive war and that these bases are legit or otherwise they'd be banned. And you seriously claim you're an honest alliance. Can't have your cake and eat it too...
Our Elite alliances pride themselves in being cheater free and honest. I know it's difficult in the top alliances where it can be tempting to accept suspicious players, but you better protect your reputation if you have one worth keeping. In the end, all I'm saying is that if your going claim a moral authority over cheating alliances then you better not be one yourself.
Either get off your high horse and embrace the dark side or clean up your alliance like it's advertised
Pls note about selecting umyo , dench or Kingsley or dale ... These guys 5 star any base or when they star it Ll be minimum 4 ..Inform at the earliest when possible .. I'm the least strongest of them ... We Ll show u how it's done .. If u up ur game and beat us we would me manganous in congratulating u .. Not calling cheat or foul play
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May the grace of RNGesus help you encounter each other on the battlefield.
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Lol again with your redirection. You sound like a terrific cheerleader for your buddies but sadly my posts here were never about competing in war if you read them... And lol at your thought that a 20 vs 20 war will somehow 'legitimize' your alliance or absolve it of the players I mentioned.
U still don't get the point ... We have our own set of rules ..we don't need to follow others ... We r doing great as a team .. I'm saying there's no evidence against him .. If ur alliance has a rule that max wall players are cheaters kicked out then fine ...others need to follow it blindly ..it's not a benchmark .. Let the cs be the judge ... If u bring evidence of acknowledgement from cs tat a player is cheat and we still have tat player ur point is right .. u even acknowledged u had sin city in ur alliance at a point of time ... So wat let me say USA elite 2 had cheaters at a point of time
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Dear DomiNations community,
As per the linked post, as soon as the cheating was brought to our attention Muabdib was removed from the United Allies alliance (as of 2015-12-22).
We don't tolerate cheaters, and if you suspect anyone of cheating at any time, please report them to the in-game Customer Service feature as well as to their alliance Leader.
As per the linked post, as soon as the cheating was brought to our attention Muabdib was removed from the United Allies alliance (as of 2015-12-22).
We don't tolerate cheaters, and if you suspect anyone of cheating at any time, please report them to the in-game Customer Service feature as well as to their alliance Leader.
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Kevin, I am third party in this argument, but I agree more on that cheating should be actively investigated, according to how serious this problem is right now. I understand your point that you insist the defender player does not need to provide proof but the one who complain should prove. I actually understand but totally disagree. First we are not a court to be able to sentence anybody, the law rule does not apply. Secondly how can we judge without access to server data? So the only reasonable way is that player himself wash himself clean with evidence. I do not think a legit player will mind to do so. As it is really difficult to believe normal ppl willing to pay so much to upgrade a virtual city wall, there is reasonable ground to raise eyebrow isn't it? The player who is concerned can simply provide any part of the e receipt if your alliance has your own chat group, not difficult or violate privacy.
Of course how to censor is totally your own business, if you think your trust to every member is enough and you believe everyone has a angel spirit it is also fine. Really, nobody wants to interfere your alliance business.
By the way, you respond as having a war in the game is not related to the topic if there is bad apple in your alliance. You may just simply say, I want to be myself and that is the way we run our alliance. Enough is not it?
Of course how to censor is totally your own business, if you think your trust to every member is enough and you believe everyone has a angel spirit it is also fine. Really, nobody wants to interfere your alliance business.
By the way, you respond as having a war in the game is not related to the topic if there is bad apple in your alliance. You may just simply say, I want to be myself and that is the way we run our alliance. Enough is not it?
100 percent agree with u Leo .. THERS NO QUESTION cheating is rampant.. We r totally against cheaters . Imagine a new player as in this case joining us wouldn't it be hurting to ask the first question how come ur maxed out man .show your recipt ... It may be how they run their alliance but we do not ... And the thread we started see the screen shots provided .. I was asking evidence like tat to confront the individual person .. I confronted muabdib when evidence was provided and he was kicked out
When I ask him about a person in his alliance about 5 wonders his reply was just a bug .. Couldn't it be a bug having an extra flamepanzer or switching from Chinese to Koreans .we have accepted the person in question in our alliance and he's our ally and he needs to gain our confidence to proceed to council . THE SOLUTION TO THIS WOULD BE HAVING A REPLAY IN WAR WHICH WE BADLY NEED IT .. And we ll be closely watching the concerned person ... Tats how we run our alliance .. We trust em
As u said I must say " we want to be ourself and tats how we run our alliance "
When I ask him about a person in his alliance about 5 wonders his reply was just a bug .. Couldn't it be a bug having an extra flamepanzer or switching from Chinese to Koreans .we have accepted the person in question in our alliance and he's our ally and he needs to gain our confidence to proceed to council . THE SOLUTION TO THIS WOULD BE HAVING A REPLAY IN WAR WHICH WE BADLY NEED IT .. And we ll be closely watching the concerned person ... Tats how we run our alliance .. We trust em
As u said I must say " we want to be ourself and tats how we run our alliance "
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You seem like you think we invented the notion that max wall players are cheats.. Ask any legit player if max walls are legit and they'll tell you no. That's the perception of your alliance being blind to cheaters only because you know they'll serve a purpose. I agree that we have have our set of stringent rules and vetting process to ensure our alliance is clean and that's why I can say we're completely clean unlike you. You don't get to the #1 and #2 positions by just accepting everyone.
If you follow your logic that the slow and inconsistent CS is the ultimate authority over everyone's common sense then you shouldn't be complaining about TopDominators. According to you, they're not cheaters because even though they've got max walls, CS hasn't banned them so they're totally legit. See where your train of thought leads you? That's why we don't accept max wall players unless they can back themselves up. We don't need players like that to tarnish our alliances.
And lol and claiming Sincity was in our alliace as if we welcomed him. Lol now you're really desperate for any sort of argument.
He joined our chat last week and I kicked him myself 10 minutes later when common sense judgment showed he was a cheater. Guess where he went to though and found a welcoming home? A home that even immediately included him in a war. Sound familiar? If you agree he's a cheater which is what it seems like you're trying to pin him to me then why do I still see him at United Allies, along with all the others? You can come up with all the hypothetical arguments or accusations you want but you won't find a cheater in our alliance that hasn't been kicked. You can't say the same, but your deflections are pretty amusing.
Lol come on dude you're not fooling anyone just let it go and have a better, cleaner, respected alliance in the end. It's for your own good.
If you follow your logic that the slow and inconsistent CS is the ultimate authority over everyone's common sense then you shouldn't be complaining about TopDominators. According to you, they're not cheaters because even though they've got max walls, CS hasn't banned them so they're totally legit. See where your train of thought leads you? That's why we don't accept max wall players unless they can back themselves up. We don't need players like that to tarnish our alliances.
And lol and claiming Sincity was in our alliace as if we welcomed him. Lol now you're really desperate for any sort of argument.
He joined our chat last week and I kicked him myself 10 minutes later when common sense judgment showed he was a cheater. Guess where he went to though and found a welcoming home? A home that even immediately included him in a war. Sound familiar? If you agree he's a cheater which is what it seems like you're trying to pin him to me then why do I still see him at United Allies, along with all the others? You can come up with all the hypothetical arguments or accusations you want but you won't find a cheater in our alliance that hasn't been kicked. You can't say the same, but your deflections are pretty amusing.
Lol come on dude you're not fooling anyone just let it go and have a better, cleaner, respected alliance in the end. It's for your own good.
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Hey Daddy Droid, you seem more civilized. I commend you for your zero tolerance for cheaters but I hope as expected that you do abide by it. You can start with my post on the previous page and take a look at some of the sad cheaters infecting your alliance. I do hope you do the right thing and distance yourselves from them, unlike your ally here who wants to protect them at all costs.
You guys have a strong alliance and I'm not disputing that, but we all expect you to have a clean one as well if you claim any moral authority over cheating in other alliances.
You guys have a strong alliance and I'm not disputing that, but we all expect you to have a clean one as well if you claim any moral authority over cheating in other alliances.
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Did you even read what leoelephant wrote? He's arguing that any reasonable person would be able to tell that max walls is a sign of cheating if it can't be backed up with crown receipts. And he's saying if that is how you want to run your alliance's business by trusting a cheater's word, then that's your own judgment. But on the flipside by the same token, it does give me the moral authority to question your practices if you claim a zero tolerance and complain about other cheating alliances.
And if your talking about Gambrinus in the first part of your second paragraph then go back and read what I wrote. Because clearly you didn't understand it. His wonder isn't a bug it was literally given to him by CS and he has screenshots to back it up. Your outwardly defense of Sin city is pretty sad. And don't bring in my legit players to somehow rationalize your cheaters.
Your reasoning for keeping cheaters by blind trust is pretty pathetic for a top alliance. I'll be sure to refer any player that's about to be kicked from now on to a nice welcoming place called United Allies. There they won't question your methods and will include you in wars or even promote you to council!
And if your talking about Gambrinus in the first part of your second paragraph then go back and read what I wrote. Because clearly you didn't understand it. His wonder isn't a bug it was literally given to him by CS and he has screenshots to back it up. Your outwardly defense of Sin city is pretty sad. And don't bring in my legit players to somehow rationalize your cheaters.
Your reasoning for keeping cheaters by blind trust is pretty pathetic for a top alliance. I'll be sure to refer any player that's about to be kicked from now on to a nice welcoming place called United Allies. There they won't question your methods and will include you in wars or even promote you to council!
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Customer service aint worth c.rap
When i was in top dominators i was in conversation with td leader on line app. He told me how he cheated. I sent screenshots to customer service. Explained to them what he did. He was industrial age months before release. Along with other cheaters like steini(german alliance).
He got banned and unbanned 3 times because he argued with customer service and showed them crown purchase receipts.
Which totally blew their mind. See heres the thing.....bhg cant see whos buying crowns. That information isnt given to bhg by apple/google play.
Theres a wall separating the money purchases and whats happening in game. So bhg is really limited in how they find cheaters. And even when they do the are nervous to take big action in case the player gets angry.
Tldr....bhg didnt create this game with anti cheating in mind and their incapable of dealing with it
They cant stop players from doing stuff like demolition + 6 infantry = 5 star
Theres a handful of players out there who have spent $10-20k to have max base/walls....the other 98% are cheaters.
When a player joins ur alliance its a simple question. Did u spend $10k on ur base? If they say no then tell me how u grinded out the gold for wars. If the answer isnt 8+ months of 5ish hours a day using french/tb and awesome tactics on field hes a cheater.
If the player gives some half assed newb answer to how they have max walls their a cheater.
In alliance wars every base on both teams gets 3 starred right off the bat. The team with the most 5 star players wins doesnt matter how terrible 80% of the alliance is.
Most alliances will have 3ish 5 star players. An alliance with 1-2 cheaters has the decisive advantage where it matters.
Did united allies cheat? Who knows. I believe that kevin believes united is legit. If theres cheating going on he has no part in it hes defending his alliance as is natural.
The first united vs usa war....united won by 1 star with 1+ of their top players making no attacks.
Their average battle time tends to be low for all the 5 starring they did against usa 2
On flip side usa 2 is a softer target and if united learned from their previous battles and shared 5 starring strats then maybe they are the best 5 starring alliance in the game.
Because thats what they are right now. Usa has fought against all the big boy alliances and united is pumping out the most 5 stars. Legitimately? Well never know and ultimately it doesnt matter. All this drama...
Wars is meaningless. Like completely meaningless. The 2 battles i make in wars is less gold/time invested than my normal farming.
Combine meaningless + cheating = wars is failure
When i was in top dominators i was in conversation with td leader on line app. He told me how he cheated. I sent screenshots to customer service. Explained to them what he did. He was industrial age months before release. Along with other cheaters like steini(german alliance).
He got banned and unbanned 3 times because he argued with customer service and showed them crown purchase receipts.
Which totally blew their mind. See heres the thing.....bhg cant see whos buying crowns. That information isnt given to bhg by apple/google play.
Theres a wall separating the money purchases and whats happening in game. So bhg is really limited in how they find cheaters. And even when they do the are nervous to take big action in case the player gets angry.
Tldr....bhg didnt create this game with anti cheating in mind and their incapable of dealing with it
They cant stop players from doing stuff like demolition + 6 infantry = 5 star
Theres a handful of players out there who have spent $10-20k to have max base/walls....the other 98% are cheaters.
When a player joins ur alliance its a simple question. Did u spend $10k on ur base? If they say no then tell me how u grinded out the gold for wars. If the answer isnt 8+ months of 5ish hours a day using french/tb and awesome tactics on field hes a cheater.
If the player gives some half assed newb answer to how they have max walls their a cheater.
In alliance wars every base on both teams gets 3 starred right off the bat. The team with the most 5 star players wins doesnt matter how terrible 80% of the alliance is.
Most alliances will have 3ish 5 star players. An alliance with 1-2 cheaters has the decisive advantage where it matters.
Did united allies cheat? Who knows. I believe that kevin believes united is legit. If theres cheating going on he has no part in it hes defending his alliance as is natural.
The first united vs usa war....united won by 1 star with 1+ of their top players making no attacks.
Their average battle time tends to be low for all the 5 starring they did against usa 2
On flip side usa 2 is a softer target and if united learned from their previous battles and shared 5 starring strats then maybe they are the best 5 starring alliance in the game.
Because thats what they are right now. Usa has fought against all the big boy alliances and united is pumping out the most 5 stars. Legitimately? Well never know and ultimately it doesnt matter. All this drama...
Wars is meaningless. Like completely meaningless. The 2 battles i make in wars is less gold/time invested than my normal farming.
Combine meaningless + cheating = wars is failure
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What is your alliance name and your village name? Also, when was this pic taken? If you don't want to post here, please PM me or send me a pic of your base.
I'd appreciate it if you don't throw accusations left and right without a proper investigation and evidence, and certainly would appreciate it if you don't generalize and say stuff like '1st dynasty got cheaters'.
I'd appreciate it if you don't throw accusations left and right without a proper investigation and evidence, and certainly would appreciate it if you don't generalize and say stuff like '1st dynasty got cheaters'.
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Ok guys, this thread has contained a lot of finger pointing, claims, in-fighting, and has not been productive. As I've previously stated, please report all suspected players through our support team who pass on the reports to the internal BHG/Nexon M team who do the investigations.
I'll be closing this thread down now. If you have any questions, send me a PM.
I'll be closing this thread down now. If you have any questions, send me a PM.
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