Why I do not buy crowns

[Redgar]

At first, I gave the game a try, I liked it and i bought a starter package. Then I bought like 5 usd crowns for GP (where balance was quite good) and decided to invest in the game.

But right before my money were going to BHG they delivered 100.000+ crowns to my alliance mates for free and didn't roll back their max bases. It stop me of course, I even refunded my 5 usd lol )))) and left devs a 10usd tip, caz I still had fun.

It took me a while before I even considered buying something again. But when I could take down max EA bases with brits, it was fun, well I thought giving it another try when new age coming...

But that industrial age came for cheaters first, people started buying crowns 10 times cheaper on the black markets, so of course it stop me.

After I switched to France the game become so easy and dull that there is nothing to pay for actually.

Defense is useless. Attack is doing great with 2 units I need to loot, plus boring, cheat max IA bases are everywhere.

After I joined USA elite and got to the top ranks... Well I thought may be I need some to upgrade temple if it gets smth useful in it or try out different nations. But I had no opps for 30 mins, my peace treaties are not working, so I am out of medal race, therefore do not need crowns actually.

For me it's a question now if I can stay at all, because rewards for broken PTs vary to different players and it reminds me again the case I had 4 months ago in my precious alliance and different treatment to different players

In fact, for the period I play I could spend in around 200-300 usd. I've spent 10. What makes me think bhg is loosing alot on other players too.

If I want to buy anything from them, I have to come through the following:

- there are still plenty of not banned cheats having max bases who got it for free. Unbelievable, but some of them even got unbanned, because they ve spent some money in the game

- money won't bring me opponents at higher leagues

- I have all attacking units I need and defense is still useless

- I still have like 3k crowns, nowhere to spend effectively. Buildings speed ups were increased twice on price, so there is no sense to spend 10 usd to get +5dmg on iA mortair...

- and of course huge imbalances in the game with France wasted IA for me

- also, I remember top active and paying players who left frustrated... If I spend money and got such an end-game, I'd leave frustrated a month ago. It helped me to stay knowing I've got almost everything for free and legit.

So what's your story?

 

[Cannibals]

My cash is all tied up in research for curing Force Quit and in No Extra House therapy

 

[Aurelius...]

Redgar,

This all makes sense, and it's a reflection of the disappointment we all feel with the devs dramatically mishandling this great game.

Having said that, I would suggest a slightly different opinion on your change to the French nation. The primary advantage of the French was a fast rebuild. That advantage made the game far more exciting. However, it made it easy to advance in medals at a rate that other nations couldn't compete with. I would suggest that the devs decision to nerf all troops except raiders was what made the game dull. I could go into detail, but tc snipes with raiders and a handful of sappers is by far the quickest way to advance in medals. It's also not very exciting.

To fix the game, they need to improve the match and medal system, buff hc and infantry, reduce build times for everyone. Oh, and ban some cheaters. The evidence is easy, and the banning should be easy too.

 

[Redgar]

They are missing 'small' purchases completely.
There is no way e.g. You may spend 5 usd/day and get 2x more loot during active play.

Also, they are missing attack/defence balance completely. Attacking upgrades are 10x times more important so they should be kinda longer while defensive upgrades need to be 3-4 times shorter, there are so many of them.

Let's say you want to spend money even on age transition... Barracks and temple are the only ones it is reasonable to invest. Only temple for french.

So there is a huge problem with so called 'efficient spend' parameter imo

 

[Aurelius...]

Redgar,

You're right on here. The devs need to give normal people an incentive to spend small amounts of money on a regular basis. To make this work for themselves, they need to make the game fun and retain their customer base, drive growth and offer good value for money spent. Frustrating people dramatically and presenting only two options, spend large amounts of money or quit, will not produce the results they're hoping for.

 

[Redgar]

Yea, and IA temple does not have a single useful blessing, so THE ONLY thing I could spend crowns on in the IA isn't there, so I don't spend them. Since I don't spend them efficiently, I am not buying them even with 30% bonus

 

[Redgar]

It looks to me the game was only balanced till GP. There you have a steady progress, expanstion in features, etc.

Since you hit EA your used features list dramatically drops and stops at 3100 medals completely with no opponents.

I have my 5 mercs full for weeks. I started using generals on defence. I am not even clicking on factory. Library research is 10 times faster than armory. Just caz I am bored I added protect to sabotage, but savotage alone is enough. I even stop collecting trees and mines.

It would be better they just showed me the outro video saying that I accomplished the game, so noone pretends there is a gameplay left.

Or may be they should allow top ranked players do a restart with twice faster build times, I don't know.

 

[dbukalski]

My end game is upgrading walls for alliance wars and challenges.

Although honestly ive passed the sweet spot for farming gold to help alliance in medal count and because im waiting for the nerf which will raise what medal range is the sweet spot. 2400 or something like that with more consistent opponents might be a little better for now and much worse after the nerf

 

[Porcupine]

Haven't spend a penny on the game, literally. But I really want to, I really want to support the developers and buy something because I actually enjoy the game.
Sadly everytime I get close to spending some real money I remember the exact 6 points you mentioned.

 

[dbukalski]

This game is totally worth spending some on. When any new game comes out ur getting the head start on all future players that will keep u ahead of them forever. U get to take advantage of inbalances in the game to ur advantage. No future player will be able to upgrade as fast as we did.

What im basically hearing is complaining that we have taken advantage of inbalances. A benefit that future players would love to have.

Dont worry guys ull have ur balanced armies, with fewer no opponent problems, and a better medal system. I just cant believe u guys are looking the gift horse in the mouth that is early adoption of the game

Yeah it can be a little rocky. And there are some annoying things. U can leave and come back in a year when everythings perfect and u can be a mid tier player forever

Or u can quit and start a new release with all its same problems. Or join an established game like coc with all its perfection and ull be bottom of the pile compared to all the many years players who have spent thousands

Its almost a shame redgar that after exposing u to all the efficiency embalances in the game its just pushed u to wanting to quit. Instead of giving u the tools to grow at max speed while the opportunity exists

5 star mixed armies are coming. But this will always have been the golden age of farming gold. Its too bad not everyone can appreciate it

Hopefully the 5 star tactics we develop will invigorate u.

 

[Aurelius...]

Healthy perspective, dbukalski. Well said. I still think we should push for change, but I like your take on this too.

 

[Redgar]

No the game literally not working with nonopps up to 25 mins. They probably should remove 30% of medals from everybody each week or smth and give crowns for finishing in certain league.

 

[dbukalski]

Its our decision to go as high as we did. Last week 3200 was fine. This week its been worse and i think its a lot of new markets asians moving up in medals chewing up mid range bases putting upwards pressure on the no opponent situation.

Normally i would drop medals at this point. But starting tomorrow ill be more busy at work and ill get crushed with broken pts anyways. And with the nerf coming no opponent situation will get better so 3200 will be more ok again. I dont know what the sweet spot will be then but it will shift upwards.

Oh and part of it is wanting to help the alliance.

If ur not happy redgar bump down its fine id rather that then u b frustrated

 

[umyo_]

The devs need to go out and play the other strategy games out there and get some ideas that they can incorporate into this game because they seem to be just stuck in the mud with great gameplay and thats all. The way the battling setup is sweet I must say compared to all other games. Trying to find a battle not so much. When you finally find a battle after 30 minutes it is great. But the rest is just plain boring. There is absolutly nothing else going on. And I used to be an avid player upto about 2 weeks ago and now I am sitting here posting BS rather then tearing apart bases. But that is how great this game can be. Any other game I would of moved on by now and not thought twice. But this game has so much potential but just cant get it all figured out. You talk about finding something for the cheap spenders for crowns. Why not incorporate a one time fee ($5) and they get say 700 crowns a month endlessly.

 

[Eddie F1]

The devs need to go out and play the other strategy games out there[\QUOTE]

Or stop polishing Spitfires & Sherman tanks, sit down with a real EA/early IA base and play for a month in real-time with their own money - no developer speeds ups or developer unlimited crowns. Basically play their own game to see how borked it is.

 

[firedancer]

The crowns are too expensive in my currency. The cheapest crown offer is enough to feed me 3 to 4 meals.

When the game first launched, I bought the Starter Pack (with the heart to support the developers) and thought I was buying an EXTRA house. I never like to buy perishable items in games like gems or crowns or whatever they want to call it. I prefer to buy items where I can keep or are unique. I encouraged all my alliance mates to buy the house as well.

There are times when I thought maybe to save up a bit to buy Crowns to boost the progress for EA/IA. However, I've decided not to make anymore purchases because I see people who can just get to max EA in 2 hours with cheats. Then the so-called EXTRA house that is said to be extra but not really extra but actually is an early unlockable drew the last straw. Now whenever I see "Nexon" on any game, it can forget about getting any money from me. Same goes to everyone in my alliance who had bought the starter pack.

Since the game likes to drag-on the play progress... I'm just here leeching the server's bandwidth, processing power and storage space. LOL

 

[Redgar]

I wrote it already, but I will add it here too, that the game after 3000 medals with all those features and graphics turns to be a two button application with a notification you have to face for up to 30 mins! This is how bad it is. Anyone has different reasons, but the game actually can't take money from a player who actually would like to pay, but just can't find an efficient way to do it ))) if they sell a package allowing to me to break PTs legit, I'd buy it )))

 

[dbukalski]

Ud be surprised how many games boil down to a couple efficient units if u know what to look for and where to push. Now that uve been shown u see it as a curse.

That hyper efficiency u didnt know about before allows u to play without spending money. Again, seen as a curse.

U were happier at lower medals with british with mixed armies before i pointed the way. Thats unfortunate. This golden age of farming will pass it is not the end game. The goal should have been to ride the wave for as long as u could. Not get frustrated. Bhg will balance out the game. The waves will become smaller and fewer between and the opportunities wont be the same. Then u can spend the money

 

[Redgar]

Yea, but this game boiled down to two buttons, not even units. Secondly, that hyper-efficiency shouldn't be so huge and for so long that it turned to be equal to exploit on its influence.

Normal game experience is wasted till new age comes out in and when those cheat bases will matter less. Only if cheats are fixes of course. And it may take another 6 months to wait and cheats won't be fixed.

Actually you never told me how fast french units are build, I saw it on bamboos videos at first. And sniping came naturally, you saw how I raid, it is different from what you do.

But I agree that our 'loot battle' pushed me to do a little bit more research, caz I didn't expected devs may allow such a huge imbalances which make them loose quite a lot of money. Being british I spent some crowns at least )))

 

[Onley]

The reason I do buy crowns now and then is I feel it's only fair to give some money towards something that gives me hours of entertainment. I'm certainly not going to drain my bank account but buying $5 in crowns a few times a month doesn't seem like huge deal. It's less than the price of a movie ticket.