Antiquity warfare event fraud

DUSTY1

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Day 1 of the event has 800 points for meeting the goals.
Additional XP of +5 is given for every hour of speedups.
The current leader has 303,930 points.
Lets look how many hours of speed ups he has.
303,930
-800
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303,130 XP
Divide 303,130 by 5 (XP per hour) = 60,626 hours of speedups.
60,626 divided by 24, yield ~ 2,526 days, or around 6.9 years worth of speed ups.

Lets look at player #100 who has 2,170 event points
2,170 - 800 goal event points = 1,370 in speed up XP which is equal to 274 speed up hours. Extraordinarily ambitious (consider the resources needed to have that much in development).

Given the extremely high rate of very unlikely point totals, and the elimination of the group leaderboards, what would BHG rather have us believe?
1. That there are lots of people spending large sums of money on the game.
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2. There are an extraordinary number of cheaters who have managed to beat the system?
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3. That Big Huge Games has padded the leaderboard, and is in fact trying to run up the tally of resource sales through purchases while making it extremely unlikely that they will have to award any Event Reward other than the nominal one given for Rank 1,001+ (Mercenary Contract)?
 

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The answer i get from BHG, we run scans all the time on the leaderboards.
granted, i did see somebody after 5 hrs with 150k points, then at 7 hrs into event he was gone.
 

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My point was that virtually all of the top 100 had extremely suspect point totals and the maximum possible totals ARE calculable. That they only got rid of the player with a light years worth of points is hardly an act worthy of trust.
 

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Stop whining. If they bought the event pass, they get 5 points per star in battle. If you look at me for an example, no event pass, I have 2185 points. If I had the event pass, I would be getting 700+ extra points per day. I would be in the bottom ranks of the top 100.

that is with me not trying. I used some 15 days worth of speedups. Some research, some building, and some regular.

stop with the whining about the leader boards. 5-6k is absolutely doable at this point. Just because you didn’t do it does not mean all 100 of the leaderboard are cheaters. Not saying there are not some, but not all of them are.
 

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you could earn +5points for each victory star with the event pass. Even if you play for 16 hours a day and get every 4min a 5* victory (rough estimate) then you get 1200 points per day.
plus 750 points per day for meeting the goals.

If you bought the speedup shipment (merchant dock) than you recieve 1056h (44days) speedup. So you get 5280points.
Maybe you bought 2 or 3 of them and collecting all speedups for this event. (I think this is very unlikely) But in any case, noone should have more than 3*5280+2*1200+2*750 = 19740 points on 5th april 16:00 UTC. I like to say that the line for suspected players should be even lower ... maybe like 8000 or so. Can be wrong with a few honest players. But it is better that these are checked too than that cheaters escape their punishment.
 

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I draw the math for BHG along similar lines.
The 5 stars for fighting is there, but these space age/digital age players are not averaging 4 star battles for hours on end. I'm a lvl 280 space age, and over the last month, my defence average in multiplayer would be 2 stars at around 10 defence, and only 2 at 4 stars, 3 at 3 stars. 0 at 5 stars. That's over a month, typically around 3500 medals. If i medal to 2500, i get only 1 troop defence, and wake up the next morning back at 3000 medals.
Vast sums of People are simple Not doing the rampaging attacks of 4 star from digital age.
I have a 2nd account, atomic age. He gets attacked even less over the course of a month. Maybe on average 1 x week that actually gets any stars. Others in my alliance, global age, says he never gets attacked.
which is why it always leads to the more obvious, they're using speed ups.

There's already been a few kicked off the leaderboard for using 5+ years of speeds. That's enough speeds to be a brand new account, created and reached at least cold war in only a few hours. Think about that.
had the person started on Tue, or wed for example, he would of had a fully made digital age, avoided this event that clearly shows the volume of speeds used.

​​​​​ How many people created instead Digital bases?

Let's look at the remaining of the top 5 in leaderboard, not as obvious at the 5 year with people. But still, 1.3 years worth of speeds.

Cheating is incredibly rampant.
 

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I agree that #1 is suspicious. I am still only L245 AA. I can easy rip through these lvl 140 GA and L150 AA bases with no losses. I admit it would be easy for me to rack up the star points.

to bad I didn’t spend $10 on the pass...
 

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But in any case, noone should have more than 3*5280+2*1200+2*750 = 19740 points on 5th april 16:00 UTC. I like to say that the line for suspected players should be even lower ... maybe like 8000 or so. Can be wrong with a few honest players. But it is better that these are checked too than that cheaters escape their punishment.

Agreed. But starting to complain about someone having 2000 xp on day one is jumping the gun. I legitimately think the 10k range for today is a good suspicious threshold.
 

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I did see some more people disappear from the leader board today. They are scanning.
 

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They're definitely scanning.
And always do.
The question is, or main point is, they're scanning with a broken system.
What are they scanning for? Extra workers? Who needs extra workers when you can just use duplicated speed ups for example.
You can show and prove via simple math about these cheaters, but if it doesn't scan up, they get off.
Their scanners are looking for red, and red gets found.
Trouble is, blue, green, and purple are also cheaters and are not getting picked up
 

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I suggest searching for a few of the leading names of the event leaderboard on dominations.pl if you think these players aren’t cheating. Take a look at their progress graphs. It’s obvious that they are using hacked speed ups not grinding out stars.
Also nobody’s gonna be stupid enough to buy that number of speed ups legitimately when they could be buying better legendaries directly instead.
 
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