Are the Japanese ever going to be made viable?

[Mr Suplex]

Sadly, the Japanese are probably the worst nation in this game, and by a pretty large margin. Their nation bonuses are by far the worst in the game; no active player gives a crap about an extended peace treaty, and the town center defenses become obsolete in later ages.

I really would like to see Nexon rethink Japan to make it viable. I'd love to use them, but right now they are just awful and the closest comparison, Germany, is superior in every way.

 

[Quovatis]

yep, Germans get the exact same unique unit, but far superior other perks.

 

[British Coffee]

Yea,they ended up having both crappy unique units and the nation perk. Only reason Germany or Romans are considered a better nation is because of their amazing nation traits, but not the special units itself. I reckon buffing Samurai type units so that they are actually as good as something like longbows or chevaliers would be an interesting direction that would make Japan unique to other Infantry nations

 

[rising_meatball]

nahhh, i think japanese are perfectly fine. this game is owned by koreans, if you did your due diligence between korean and japanese, you would know why they designed japanese this way.

 

[Blacknife686]

Japs are definitely the worst, but the TC attack isn't COMPLETELY useless. It's pretty effective at killing shooters, artillery and supply trucks, although that might just be my bad drivers....

 

[Brand Marrow]

o, this is good point....

 

[Mr Suplex]

yep, Germans get the exact same unique unit, but far superior other perks.

Exactly. I was a Japanese player until Industrial Age and switched to German. I see absolutely zero advantage to using Japanese.

 

[Mr Suplex]

Yea,they ended up having both crappy unique units and the nation perk. Only reason Germany or Romans are considered a better nation is because of their amazing nation traits, but not the special units itself. I reckon buffing Samurai type units so that they are actually as good as something like longbows or chevaliers would be an interesting direction that would make Japan unique to other Infantry nations

I don't entirely agree with your point on their special unit. I use 30 Volksgrenadiers in my German army and likely would do the same if I still played Japanese. Pound for pound they are among the hardest hitting and durable units in the game.

 

[Mr Suplex]

The Japanese are not fine, and there is almost a unanimous consensus on this point. They are garbage tier, and the history between Korean and Japan has nothing to do with how game balance should be.

Even if your theory had any weight, I could point out to you that Nexon is headquartered in Japan and Big Huge Games is in the USA (Maryland).

 

[Quovatis]

Jap/German infantry come out of APCs, and are therefore the best APCs in the game. Of course Germans get the +15% bonus, so they are better than Japanese soldiers

 

[TitaniumNinja12]

This thread and many others are exactly why I switched to the British a few months ago

 

[Mr Suplex]

TimTrain Nb4powerup

I'd like to hear your thoughts on why you think the Japanese are ok in their current form, or what plans there are to change them. Thanks!

 

[Manifesto]

Wow - you stuck with it 2 ages longer than I did. Kudos. Glad you changed though, right?!

 

[Nb4powerup]

The developers, Big Huge Games, are always looking at nation balance. I'll see what information I can get on this subject.