Beef up APC HP

[melheor]

APC has 2200 HP.
Medieval spike trap does 2850 damage.
A paratrooper has 3700 HP.

I'd expect an armored vehicle to have more HP than the damage caused by a bunch of sharpened branches sticking out of the ground from several ages back. I'd also expect it to have more HP than a single foot solider from an airplane (unless of course, these are Crysis paratroopers). Moreover, given the advent on the new Missile Silo, it makes sense that APC should be a bit beefier. To hold its own with the new changes, it should probably get at least a 50% HP boost (to 3300) in order to survive a single hit from the silo and this low-level spike trap that was meant to counter much weaker units.

 

[ReekyBullet]

I'll support that!
I'd like to make a comparison to the armoured car unit which has around about 4k HP at mk1. The APC uses triple the troop space and half the HP of the armoured car, therefore I'd like to see an HP boost where they're still vulnerable to anti-tank towers and mines but more resistant to the silo and heavy tanks.

 

[Mountainking]

Yeps. Needs at least 4-5k HP. Ridiculous how some lowly traps can take it down....or a lowly cannon tower - Dont even need an ATG.

 

[Quovatis]

Yes, it needs to be able to survive at least one shot from the missile silo. Can't really use them now.

 

[Lord P]

Completely agree! After all the “A” in “APC” stands for armoured! I would have thought 4K HP is about right.
Also, in response to the OP’s comment about medieval spike traps - I think there should be some form of diminishing damage per age with spike traps in general. There is no way some 1,000 year old group of sharpened sticks would kill a 20th century howitzer - it might blow a tire but that’s about it. I think that lower level spike traps should do far less damage to say global troops than medieval troops. If you’re too lazy to upgrade traps they should become next to useless once you get to global/atomic ages

 

[melheor]

Maybe Nexon made a typo in the name, They meant to call the unit "a PC" instead of "APC".

 

[MSS-Gaming]

I do believe that the APC unit needs a buff now that the missile silo has been released, but they have to be careful, it's a unit that can easily become overpowered with the correct library and university research.

 

[Centurion96]

APC is badly designed as well as other factory troops, perhaps exept heavy tank. If they want to keep factory troops bad design, they need to at leatst make these units cheaper. Oil is hard to get and no one would spend more oil then he could get from average battle (considering that factory troops die often due to their bad desing).

 

[Quovatis]

At least it's not as bad as the armored car. I have literally never seen one attack me since release. Completely worthless.

 

[melheor]

There is no university research for APC, unless you mean footies. Even with all of the researches in the library, it's by no means an overpowered unit. And the same can be said about any other unit once you max out your university 10 years from now.

 

[MSS-Gaming]

Maxed out Roman Heavy infantry has nearly as much HP as the APC itself. And the research is quite easy to complete.

 

[MSS-Gaming]

Oil is too precious, so everyone uses raiders instead.

 

[melheor]

The fact that heavy infantry has as much HP as an APC is an indicator of how weak the APC is, not how overpowered it is - and that has been my point the whole time.

 

[melheor]

If it cost 1/3 the oil it costs now, and was as effective at getting past defenses as TH, it would actually get used. As it is, armored car is a joke. Nexon should at least make it sneak through gates the same way as commando does, otherwise this unit will never be used.

 

[melheor]

APC design is not the problem, in fact it's a very fun unit, but it dies too easily. It doesn't need redesign, it just needs an HP buff. Machine gun too would be more popular if it had +1 range so it didn't die by standing in front of your tanks, but that's a different thread. As it stands (and as everyone in the thread pointed out), APC has less armor than most other Atomic Age units and there is nothing "armored" about its current defense, despite the name. Even helicopters and airplanes in this game have more HP than APC currently does. Why should a thin layer of aluminum be more armored than an armored vehicle?