Big Huge Nerf. Let’s sum up.

Redgar

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  • wallbreakers lost splash dmg
  • building speed ups crown prices were increased. It feels like twice?
  • animal blessing duration decreased twice
  • what's next???
Soldiers
  • lost range
  • lost attacking during rally-run feature
  • lost shooting over the walls
  • in addition to garrisons, towers and mortairs, they received redoubts as a counter
  • upgade price was increased
Ranged Units
  • towers increased their range
  • received redoubts as a counter
  • now there are defensive tanks with splash?
  • hi-level generals with AW are just immortal even if you take 50+ range units
HC
  • after initial buff, they nerfed it how many? 3 times on DPS? It’s fair to say that it is still buffed in comparison to initial version, but it does not matter with hi-level walls
  • the last upgrade to tank is so marginal, so it may be considered as a downgrade in some cases
Basic Oil units
  • first, they increased their building times twice
  • then removed from TB, so building times e.g. for guerrilla went up 9-10 times. Probably, the biggest unit nerf ever.
Training blessing
  • went down from 80% to 70% speed up.
  • factory was excluded, ariport wasn’t even added
Gates
  • increased their prices ‘to match walls prices’ they say, but somehow their gained HP do not match with walls HP
Building Times
  • They managed to become slower on progress than CoC which is 3+ years old game in less than 6 months
It is fair to list some buffs too:
  • they buffed protect tactics, but then nerfed it a bit what was reasonable
  • they buffed some nations Brits, Germans, French, but still far away perfect imbalance here
  • they buffed healer building times. Thanks, but I don’t use it any more.
  • they buffed peace treaties 25%
  • raiders were buffed on stats once, but I think they also had range before and now they don't
No complaints, just a little summary. Add if I missed something.
 
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somuchdust

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The gates one really gets me.. They same price as walls but lower HP, it makes no sense that they should be wall priced. I also no longer use any oil units due to the fact the TB no longer works with them. Honestly majority of the NERFS are always in bad directions making it a whole lot worse than it needed to be.
 

JuDomines

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Regarding gates, there is at least a reason for their lower HP than walls: defending units can go through them, not attacking ones (except guerilla). It's a tactical advantage for defenders. For this reason, i find gates actually balanced.
 

Eddie F1

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Training blessing
  • went down from 80% to 70% speed up.
  • factory was excluded, ariport wasn’t even added

You sure on 70%? My Blessing is 77%.

But they had to do something to counter the dodgy French maths or 80+20=100% reduction - should have been ( OriginalTime-20%) - 80%
(Godamn cheese eating surrender monkeys ruining it for us all) :)
 

Redgar

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Their support wrote me 70%, but it may be 77, yes. tb was nerfed once for sure on value and then factory excluded. I think it was their plan to have France like that as they wrote me in support. In general, I think TB needs a buff for everybody and then french formula could be fixed a bit.
 

Redgar

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Unless all new players have to pay 3m gold for something old players paid less, 1,8m or smth, don't remember
 

Porcupine

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Their support wrote me 70%, but it may be 77, yes. tb was nerfed once for sure on value and then factory excluded. I think it was their plan to have France like that as they wrote me in support. In general, I think TB needs a buff for everybody and then french formula could be fixed a bit.
I hope they don't ruin the French training with blessing tho, I just turned to French and took that decision based on what they said: 'French training and blessing working as intended' and assured everyone. Unique French units are useless after the nerf, it's good to have that useful combo instead.
 

Eddie F1

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They've only have to fix the maths, your army build under TB would still be 20% faster than mine, which was the French advantage all along.

Incidentally on TB for the non-French it's worth spending the 6-9 crowns to instant build your army, 2-3 crowns per barrack, especially on the last build just before the timer runs out.
 

Redgar

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France is wrong multiple times, I wrote about it, but since they confirmed it is as intended and not a bug or misbalance, they'd better look for other creative ways to balance it and buffing TB for everybody is a good way to go. If they nerf it they should offer free switch for french at least, caz it's gonna be useless nation with such HC
 

sjb

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I accept the possibility that my attack strategy is not the best, but I find that my army is decimated by a few defensive buildings and troops from a lower age, all with ease.

It's like my army has lost the will to live since reaching the new age! Still getting a few lost souls attacking random walls or just going "each man for himself".

It may be deliberately designed this way to encourage the near week long upgrades :)(zzzz), but at this stage I would gain more by deploying apple pickers and just raiding the trees.
 

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lol, i think my army lost their will to live as well once i reached IA. for some reason the just seem lethargic and struggle to take easy bases 10 levels below mine.

Anyway that coupled all the cheaters you see at medal counts over 1k, and also the long build times and high res cost for everything in IA, has killed my will to keep playing this game.
 

somuchdust

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I still dont see what youre trying to explain.. lol, the HP has nothing to do with our defenders being able to go through them?... lol the gates are still attacked by Attacking units, but now they have lower HP than walls but now theyre the same price... that seems unbalanced..
 

somuchdust

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Seriously tho, if the blessing its nerfed too the french will be super useless.. Ive been french because of the Units at first then they made them crap so now the TB is the only thing that it makes up for the useless unit.
 

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Have u gotten zeppelins yet? Dont quit till u have those. U may feel different about IA once u have those
 

Porcupine

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They nerfed the training blessing from 77% to 70% , 30min to 20min. That blessing was the only thing keeping me in the game.
Did they ruined the french formula with the blessing too? anyone can confirm? My temple is upgrading.
 
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