Blocking the leaderboard aka Dead Alliances: Good or Bad decision?

[Max_imus]

In the last few days new trend/issue has emerged in DomiNations. Blocking of the leaderboard spots by some of Top100 alliances in the game.There are several issues that lead to these decisions.

1) Bug of "Unable to start war right now"
2) Overall Nexon bad care of customers (crashes, old bugs, fyber)
3) Stalemate problem

I havent checked lately but yesterday evening they were at least 3 aliances (all former Top20) that are blocking the leaderboard by abandoning this allinace, creating/joining alternative one and leaving there only few of their "accounts" (usually inactive stacking ones). This also leads to blocking another new alliances to enter the leaderboard.
Those alliance are Valkyrie, which was the best chinese alliance in Dominations, they allegedly abandoned their alliance due to issue 1. Then there are alliances No name (only troll renaming) and the latest VN Elite. Those probably abandoned their spots due to problem number 3 and a bit of due to issue number 2.

With this trend growing there are several questions. Is it a good way to push Nexon to something? What will happen with those alliances who are just sitting there with 21000 of glory and no participating in 0 wars? Let them sit or reset glory? Is this only a new way how to make entrance of new alliances into the Top100 even more difficult, that means new exploit on a bit lower lvl than sandbagging. Is it going to make progress in war algorhytm fixes faster?

What will be the ultimate Nexon answer?

 

[Althalus]

Perhaps a little paranoia here but maybe option 4 as well maximus... Leave your top 20 alliance, found a new one, stack that one and win wars from the bottom causing your opponents massive glory loss. A few wars in that alliance then move on to another new one. After all, you can't gain much glory in that top 20 alliance but big loses by those around you could propel you up. Surely not though eh No Name?

 

[Vixen]

Actually good point... and clever strategy...

 

[Max_imus]

Perhaps a little paranoia here but maybe option 4 as well maximus... Leave your top 20 alliance, found a new one, stack that one and win wars from the bottom causing your opponents massive glory loss. A few wars in that alliance then move on to another new one. After all, you can't gain much glory in that top 20 alliance but big loses by those around you could propel you up. Surely not though eh No Name?

Hey Althalus, long time no see.
Pretty much excellent point. I would not agree with one argument and thats not getting enough glory on top. Tbh you can receive good glory when playing somewhat same glory team, but yes, surely less than if younstart with 12k glory

So your point is that they wanna get as much teams possible to leaderboard. Wow, if thats true, thats something Nexon has to solve imho.

 

[Fable]

I've been quiet for too long on this WW pettiness!

I am sure I am not the only 1 to notice this "new" strat, but I was wondering lately why my clan has struggled so much against clans we should easily beat. Now I know some reasons (some mentioned here) but as I was scrolling through our opposition for WW I noticed some bases not updated (war base wise) past the Classical Age. Looking into it more I found several more doing the same bs.

I only checked 4 acc.s atm that looked the most suspicious and found this; a lvl 70 in our WW is actually a lvl 109, a lvl 65 is actually a lvl 93, a lvl 51 is actually a lvl 75 and a lvl 60 is actually a lvl 82. What's the problem u ask? Well for 1 those 4 acc.s add a +113lvl to their combined strength (so basically add another well built EA base to their roster). All 4 bases r not updated past Classical. 3/4 of the bases r EA and 1 is GPA in reality, so these low level acc.s have EA & GPA troops to b able to reach up and att. higher lvl acc.s with ease. Is this the way WW's r going to b? If u want to win that bad, go for it, but it's pretty pathetic. Even worse I am certain out of my clans 3 loses (in our last 75-80 wars) was because of this!

Nb4powerup I have ss of the players we r up against (not that it matters I bet). What's sad is my clan was a top 5 WW lb clan until we run into chicken #*#× clans like these. We've lost 3500+ Glory in those 3 loses and when we win we get 20 something to (maybe) 100 something.

@BHG/Nexon what a joke of a game u guys have produced, roll out AA and not "fix" the poison pills plaguing this game!

 

[Lucid]

So here is my take seeing every side.. when you are a top alliance that stinks to go to war knowing the best you can accomplish is a stalemate, that's a lot of work for nothing. while I don't condone stacking I understand why they do it, unfortunately it kills the fun for the other Non top alliances. I think there would be 2 simple ways to stop stalemates. 1. tie breaker could be fastest time for complete destruction on each base added together , imagine the fun of shaving time off each attacked base to try to get the win they could display the fastest time on each base then the collective time as well. 2. make every track count towards destruction and make Non attacks be a penalty. to me the first option would be the funnest and the chance of ties would be slim. So rather than getting angry at each other lets push for a change together

 

[Equal]

i am shure that on these forums are a lot of great ideas how to stop stacking, solve stalemates and so on. but nobody is listening on the other end.

 

[Veldan]

This is why online games that take rankings seriously have a decay, a % of points lost per unit time. This can be always active or only when the user (or in this case alliance) stops participating in the ranked activity. It solves the problem either way.

 

[S_How]

I really like your option #1!!! Would be less complicated than most other suggestions (including mine), and would not punish players in any way for participating.

 

[Max_imus]

This is why online games that take rankings seriously have a decay, a % of points lost per unit time. This can be always active or only when the user (or in this case alliance) stops participating in the ranked activity. It solves the problem either way.

Thats the best solution imho. This can be a big problem in coming months and something need to be done about it.

 

[Vixen]

Nb4powerup .... kindly tell nexon to put there butt into gear

 

[Max_imus]

Cool avatar!

 

[Brand Marrow]

unfortunately Nexon butt is currently serving as Nexon head...

 

[Vixen]

We have to keep talking about this... running off and doing our own thing in discord isn't going to keep the issue forefront...

 

[Vixen]

So the question is should they be removed or left there?

 

[Prodigal Clint]

Max_imus Great post, this issue needs to be remedied immediately, let's hope they include a fix for this into the alleged glory fix they have been working on for months, without any updates to the community since...

*sigh
*Face meets palm

 

[Nb4powerup]

I've said it more than a few times but this is still in testing. We can't just toss in a 'fix' without making sure that it will address the issue.

 

[Glacier]

Lol, I thought I saw some bogus crap going on. I thought these top alliances were putting to gether decoy groups so everyone would match a team without glory so the gap from top to bottom kept getting larger, lol. Now y'all seeing they are creating new alliances and leaving the original stashed on the leader boards, lol priceless at what glory has become, smh.

 

[Europeos]

It's a good point.
Another issue which should be studied is alliances facing their sister alliances to transfer glory from one to another. I really don't know how this can possibly be addressed though...

 

[Equal]

kick them out after 10 innactive ww rounds (20 days). simple. or make it like a two weeks or something similar. now seasons and donated troops are reseted every two weaks, so they could reset glory as well, if an alliance did not participated in a single ww during that time.