Cheaters impact on your game

[KniferX]

#1 alliance in the game's own rankings has been blatantly cheating and making its way to the top for the past year+ unhindered, along with other cheating alliances trailing behind in a similar manner.. it's just normal in this apsurdity to have everyday complaints. I'm not gonna join in on the excessive topic making but I'm not going to remarkably judge it either.

You have to understand that the frustration is also excessively compounded by the fact that the devs are implementing a policy of silence and ignoring as well, only making broad statements and never naming any alliances or concrete issues/actions they will solve/take. Push it under the rug and it will disappear, right?

 

[pckrn]

i have come across cheating bases and i have also been attacked by cheaters.
do i really care? no.
does that mean no one should care? no.
do i see it as negativity if people criticize devs for something that affects them but not me? no.
do i see it as negativity if people complain, ‘it doesnt affect me, so i dont wanna hear about it!’? yes.

 

[pckrn]

in enlightenment and industrial it is difficult to collect oil because oil is scarce in those ages, it's difficult to hit an age up, you don't have museum buffs, yet you could lose a huge amount of oil because there isn't a maximum oil loot limit like there is for globals and up.

who cares about them? well they're the little guys that have to survive into later ages if this game is to have a future. so they do matter.

the lots of work they did in collecting the oil will become a waste of time spent. even if it was fun doing the collecting, having to do it again unexpectedly is another thing. if a child is playing with blocks and you topple a small part of it, the child will not enjoy that.
also, it could cause a delay in what they were planning to do with the oil. that is definitely time wasted.

you and i may not care much for resources. but that doesn't mean the same goes for everyone.

 

[Manifesto]

No, not wise or insightful or anything like that. Not complaining or deriding either.
Just making a comment based on an observation.

 

[albynos]

apparently from the pool it does not affect anyone pckrn except for 3 that are always attacked by cheaters (oh yes!).
You don't care, but you write about them...is it just a sort of love for them?

 

[albynos]

I made a pool just because I wanted to see the coloured bars.
The cheating spectrum is the new james bond movie?
Anyway I feel your pain, cheating is a really big problem affecting your life...but I'm the poor guy.
At least I made you laught so you forgot about your huge cheater problem

 

[KniferX]

You got one thing right at least, you're most definitely making me laugh.

 

[CleoBS]

KniferX - That is the problem, as i am being told that they will not discuss it with me any further.... it creates huge frustration to be honest.Pushing it under the rug is what gets everyone's back up

 

[CleoBS]

Manifesto - You've made your fair share of 1918 posts, please allow me the joy of making my 4th post in the forums.

 

[Mixie]

Really there are cheaters in Dynasty? Impressive.

 

[pckrn]

albynos your poll is very poorly made. and i dont recall writing about cheaters except in reply to someone already talking about cheaters, but even if i did, you wouldnt actually achieve anything by revealing me as someone who does care about cheaters. if i was such a person that only prooves there are people that do care about cheating which would make your topic even more wrong than it already is, in the sense that it is so negative, i cant think of anyone other than chadwicke who can top this in terms of negativity.

Mixie i do have other accounts that arent in dynasty, but yes i did see cheaters with my dynasty acc as well. not a lot.

 

[kilgore_trout]

I think cheaters have a bigger impact on this forum than the game. With or without cheaters the players will still play the game, yet this forum would be half as busy without the ‘cheater’ posts.

No offence but that's a pretty toxic attitude to have in regards to cheaters. Even if it's only 5% of the player base it's still a priority that needs to be dealt with. It's one thing if it were an obscure exploit that few could take advantage of; getting into the games matrix is something anyone could do. This poll is so low because most people have no idea what to look for; that reddit post wasnt only showing how to cheat, it also included a write up on how to cheat without getting caught. Which again is not that difficult to do, pump your uni/dock/traps with the stolen workers and noone visiting your base will notice.

Im convinced that the reason why the ar thread got so much attention and the cheater thread was largely ignored was because most of those people were cheating themselves so it was a nonissue.

more people are cheating than you are acknowledging, and you giving nexon pass is just enabling more people to cheat. If this isnt high on the list of things nexon needs to deal with, than what is? Rounded walls? More nerfs?

How can anyone justify spending money on this game when nexon is giving it away for free

 

[KniferX]

Spot on.
It's like that saying for cockroaches.
If you see one in the open, you can be sure there are many more hiding around.
Same thing for cheaters. The blatant cheater alliances at the top, or those bases in MP that have all buildings upgrading at once are just the tip of the iceberg. We'll never really know how many people are playing it smart and hidden.

 

[Manifesto]

I'm giving Nexon a pass, am l? Don't recall saying anything like that.
Thank you for proving my observation. That's right, a simple observation. Of what I've seen. Nothing more.
I've reported my fair share of cheaters to CS. Have they done anything about them? I don't know.
Can l do any more than l have? No.
Can l do anything about them not doing anything? Yes, l can keep playing or make posts on the forum. One of these makes me feel better and one of these doesn't.
I wish you luck with your efforts. ☺

 

[CleoBS]

I see my post was "redirected" what does that mean?

 

[Big T]

As generally the most viewed post are the complaining ones, here it comes a new one:

How many times in your account you realized you have been attacked by a cheater stealing all your resources with any chance of defense:

I used to complain about cheaters when I was IA and lower. Now I really don’t care. Like Black tiger said I don’t think about it a lot anymore. Also, why would you steal resources if you are cheating? You can just create your own resources or better yet just upgrade everything without waiting 3 weeks for every single thing and tying up all of your workers.

 

[kilgore_trout]

I could see how people that have never or have no intention of ever spending money on the game would not care about cheating, but suggesting that people are wrong for complaining about cheaters is misguided, every other thread is about how the game shouldnt be P2W but somehow people bringing up cheat 2 win elicits eyerolls.

I dont fully get why an honest player wouldnt be bothered by someone flooding there unis with workers when it takes you 6+ days and 3 citizens just to finish an entry level +3% davinci skill. If youre indifferent to cheaters maybe you should sit this one out.

 

[kilgore_trout]

Its entirely possible that you misread what I wrote if you think I proved your observation.

 

[Manifesto]

Are you saying we should let people constantly bang their head against the proverbial wall, even though they know their actions won't achieve much/anything? Are we wrong for pointing out the futility of their actions or for trying to get them to see past their rage?
At the very least shouldn't we point out the old saying ''insanity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results''?
At the very very least, people should be taught to recognize what types of responses get results and what type of responses get reactions.