Cheaters in this alliance

[Funks]

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Good post mate. Hmm that puts it in another light. So max walls are lvl 14? No higher?

 

[S_How]

I honestly am not sure if 14 is the max and if it's just a $1m step up from 13 lol. I couldn't find much detail on it, maybe someone could verify if they know? I know there are at least 14 levels though, and I'm pretty positive of the cost up to 13.

 

[BV123]

I agree we shouldnt be shouting that people are cheaters without good evidence, but I actually do think that max walls is a pretty good indicator of cheating. To level walls from level 10-14, assuming I have my gold costs right, costs 3.5 billion gold. Ive played for over a year, and I have a ton of playtime, and Im at about 800 million lifetime raided, just started my lv 10 walls.

Anyhow, 3.5 billion gold would require 389 times of going to the store and clicking the button to fill your gold to a max of 9 million. It shows me now it costs 3200 crowns to do that once. So, that means about 1,244,800 crowns. That comes out to about 89 separate purchases of 14,000 crowns for $100. Basically, it means that a person would have to spend $8900 for just taking their walls from 10-14. Unless Im missing something in my math, which Ive put below in case someone can help me spot mistakes.

For a game thats not in the top 150 on gross $$ for IOS, to have so many people with max walls, which carry such a steep price, seems really suspicious to me. Now, if you add in the fact that most of these people also have lv 40 generals, max buildings even max caravans (even though this person didnt), etc....it takes it beyond the realm of suspicion. It would require an investment of like $20k. I can see a few folks spending like this, but not as many as I see every single day. It ought to make everyone who legitimately spends a little bit frustrated.

Wall Lv	Cost/Seg	Seg		Ttl Gold
10	3000000	140		$ 420,000,000.00
11	4000000	140		$ 560,000,000.00
12	5000000	140		$ 700,000,000.00
13	6000000	140		$ 840,000,000.00
14	7000000	140		$ 980,000,000.00
	Ttl cost			$ 3,500,000,000.00
	times to fill gold to max	388.89
	3200 crowns per time to fill gold	1,244,444.44
	$100 packs of 14000 crowns	88.89

I am not a programmer, but I would assume it would be pretty easy to run a query with 3 columns/conditions. 1) filter all players with average wall level >12. 2) Add column for total lifetime gold looted, they keep track of this for achievement. 3) Add column for lifetime spend on the account. Next step would be to ban anyone who didnt spend the thousands required, or didnt have the billions looted required. I bet this would get rid of 90% of the crown/other hackers out there. But, I cannot answer the question of why these steps havent been taken.

Thanks for collating all those data S_How. =)

Although I always say there is no point accusing anyone of cheating unless you have concrete proof, those max walls sure does raise an eyebrow or 2.
Especially when the rest of their buildings are dismal. I just can't fathom that concept.....To spend that much money on walls but not on buildings. Just makes me crossed eye even more. Lol

 

[Furyan]

Thanks for collating all those data S_How. =)

Although I always say there is no point accusing anyone of cheating unless you have concrete proof, those max walls sure does raise an eyebrow or 2.
Especially when the rest of their buildings are dismal. I just can't fathom that concept.....To spend that much money on walls but not on buildings. Just makes me crossed eye even more. Lol

wouldnt that be the thing thgh, if they did get stolen crowns somehow wouldnt any person with an IQ above a frog spend them on essential building and not crumby walls? maybe because his building are such crap hes decided walls are best.?

 

[leetillu]

THANK YOU!

I was thinking Posting the same when Funks startet talking nonsense...

 

[Nathan Win]

I agree we shouldnt be shouting that people are cheaters without good evidence, but I actually do think that max walls is a pretty good indicator of cheating. To level walls from level 10-14, assuming I have my gold costs right, costs 3.5 billion gold. Ive played for over a year, and I have a ton of playtime, and Im at about 800 million lifetime raided, just started my lv 10 walls.

Anyhow, 3.5 billion gold would require 389 times of going to the store and clicking the button to fill your gold to a max of 9 million. It shows me now it costs 3200 crowns to do that once. So, that means about 1,244,800 crowns. That comes out to about 89 separate purchases of 14,000 crowns for $100. Basically, it means that a person would have to spend $8900 for just taking their walls from 10-14. Unless Im missing something in my math, which Ive put below in case someone can help me spot mistakes.

For a game thats not in the top 150 on gross $$ for IOS, to have so many people with max walls, which carry such a steep price, seems really suspicious to me. Now, if you add in the fact that most of these people also have lv 40 generals, max buildings even max caravans (even though this person didnt), etc....it takes it beyond the realm of suspicion. It would require an investment of like $20k. I can see a few folks spending like this, but not as many as I see every single day. It ought to make everyone who legitimately spends a little bit frustrated.

Wall Lv	Cost/Seg	Seg		Ttl Gold
10	3000000	140		$ 420,000,000.00
11	4000000	140		$ 560,000,000.00
12	5000000	140		$ 700,000,000.00
13	6000000	140		$ 840,000,000.00
14	7000000	140		$ 980,000,000.00
	Ttl cost			$ 3,500,000,000.00
	times to fill gold to max	388.89
	3200 crowns per time to fill gold	1,244,444.44
	$100 packs of 14000 crowns	88.89

I am not a programmer, but I would assume it would be pretty easy to run a query with 3 columns/conditions. 1) filter all players with average wall level >12. 2) Add column for total lifetime gold looted, they keep track of this for achievement. 3) Add column for lifetime spend on the account. Next step would be to ban anyone who didnt spend the thousands required, or didnt have the billions looted required. I bet this would get rid of 90% of the crown/other hackers out there. But, I cannot answer the question of why these steps havent been taken.

Good post man. Nexon needs to ban these cheaters with urgency because they're losing/lost money when these cheaters can maxed out without getting the crown legit

 

[Eddie F1]

Only the one level in Global - no Level 15?

I did the same calculation a while back and got roughly the same answer, but in GBP so naturally we pay more.

Surely the 89 trips to the AppStore in a very short space of time would trigger something, even Visa/Mastercard calling you up.

But has anybody tried to work out the oil cost for maxing the armory? Just seen a custard base with 3 Max Level generals on defence.

 

[ELITE JAG]

Unfortunately, CS response to cheater reports is lost most of the time with just a canned response and no action.

 

[Atinyfish1386]

They do what. That's right little to nothing. Iv sent screen shot replays of actually game play get the same canned response!!

 

[BV123]

Well.... I'm glad I just proved that my IQ is ranked above a lowly frog.

 

[Magnifico]

Not that it makes that much difference, but your excellent calculations only take the cost of walls into account, S_How. A Global Age player will also have 10 gates, so you are undershooting by 250 million gold on the costs of going from 10 to 14.

 

[S_How]

I agree, the only thing that's ever stopped me from spending more $$ in this game. Its hard to spend real $$ on crowns when you run into hacked bases so often, knowing that these people have zillions of crowns for free and you're expected to pay real money for it.

 

[S_How]

Yes youre right, just adds into it. Then there is oil for all those lv 40 gens, probably just as expensive as walls lol.

 

[Nathan Win]

Seraphine Nb4powerup

Do you guys know how long the internal team takes to investigate and ban these cheaters? Thanks.

 

[Nb4powerup]

It really depends on their work load but they are reviewing.

 

[And1SC]

I heard all they cheaters all just got banned 2 weeks

 

[Ravenlord]

Aww bull - we never ever thought your IQ was any lower than at least a cane toad !!

 

[BV123]

Smart A$$.....

 

[Nathan Win]

Hey everyone, Elite Generals just battled Mexico King in a war and we noticed some suspicious bases. 2 bases in particular that we want to get Seraphine and Nb4powerup attention on banning.

#1 Yoku, guy has max walls. Either he's really rich or hacked crowns to upgrade to max global walls. Maxed walls usually a good sign of cheater.

#2 Sir Hugo, this guy was stacking buildings under his TC. Both my other ally and I attacked this base and same result, after we destroyed the TC there are other buildings stacking underneath. I was still able to 5 stars him with my IA troops.

We end up winning against this cheating alliance because they're harboring cheaters, so their whole alliance is consider a cheating alliance. My other allies found some suspicious building placement in other bases as well but didn't take screenshot. Seraphine Nb4powerup Please take a look at these bases and this alliance to ban them. They may have gotten away with many wars. Thanks.

Nb4powerup looks like yoku has been banned or left alliance from having maxed wall. Sir Hugo, stacking buildings in war world is still there and has not been banned. Do you have any update? Thanks.

 

[ELITE JAG]

@https://forum.nexonm.com/member/21655-nb4powerup
This team is a very obvious cheating alliance. Will you please see if it helps asking Nexon to investigate? Hundreds of players keep reporting them but so far no action on these cheaters.