Clarification needed for Coalition

SiuYin

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1.The Egyptians are a defensive War Coalition increases the damage and hitpoints of your defensive buildings
What is defensive buildings referred to?
I am quite sure Tower / ATG / Mortar / Redoubt / Sniper Tower should be in the list, and likely Bazooka Tower
But how about Fort / Anti Air?
And is it applied to Garrison / Tank Depot / Bunker?

2. Maori is a War Coalition that increases the attack damage and health of the defender
Is it covering SH troop and Ambush Trap / Resistant Spawn?
Is it covering Donated Troop?
Is it covering General?

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3 Mongols is a War Coalition increases the Ballista and Mortar Troop attack speed and also the tactics damage in World War
How the Attack speed buff applied?
Known that Howie base speed is 3s (2.7 with lib technology) and Mortar is 2s
With 52% coalition buff will the speed be
Howie 3 * (1-10% - 52%) = 1.14
Mortar 2 * (1- 52%) = .96

or it is like
Howie 3 * (1-10%) / (1+ 52%) = 1.77
Mortar 2 / (1+ 52%) = 1.31
 
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Hyhyhy

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I guess all building that are in Defence tab in your Store.
 

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1.The Egyptians are a defensive War Coalition increases the damage and hitpoints of your defensive buildings
What is defensive buildings referred to?
I am quite sure Tower / ATG / Mortar / Redoubt / Sniper Tower should be in the list, and likely Bazooka Tower
But how about Fort / Anti Air?
And is it applied to Garrison / Tank Depot / Bunker?

2. Maori is a War Coalition that increases the attack damage and health of the defender
Is it covering SH troop and Ambush Trap / Resistant Spawn?
Is it covering Donated Troop?
Is it covering General?

it would be great if there was a place we could go to find information like this...(with full and accurate data)
 

BeerMan

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If they just provided a way to look at the coalition-boosted stats of your buildings/units, it would be easy to answer all these questions.
 

Gundolin

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1.The Egyptians are a defensive War Coalition increases the damage and hitpoints of your defensive buildings
What is defensive buildings referred to?
I am quite sure Tower / ATG / Mortar / Redoubt / Sniper Tower should be in the list, and likely Bazooka Tower
But how about Fort / Anti Air?
And is it applied to Garrison / Tank Depot / Bunker?
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I don't know, but the tower blessing from your temple also increases the damage done by defensive buildings but it doesn't affect the air defense. When you place the tower blessing or tap on it after placed the buildings it effects light up. All of your Towers/ATG/Mortars/Sniper tower light up. A

My Garrison, my stronghold and my Tank Depot do not light up so I assume it does not effect them.

My Fort and my stronghold do light up so I assume it does effect my Fort and stronghold.

I don't know that the Egyption coalition works like the Tower defense but they both reference the same effect of defensive buildings. /shrug

As a side note the Russian Coalition effects your Garison, Tank Depot, Bunker, and Air Defense. So that further leads me to believe that these buildings are excluded from the Egyptian defense bonus.
 

SiuYin

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I don't know, but the tower blessing from your temple also increases the damage done by defensive buildings but it doesn't affect the air defense. When you place the tower blessing or tap on it after placed the buildings it effects light up. All of your Towers/ATG/Mortars/Sniper tower light up. A

My Garrison, my stronghold and my Tank Depot do not light up so I assume it does not effect them.

My Fort and my stronghold do light up so I assume it does effect my Fort and stronghold.

I don't know that the Egyption coalition works like the Tower defense but they both reference the same effect of defensive buildings. /shrug

As a side note the Russian Coalition effects your Garison, Tank Depot, Bunker, and Air Defense. So that further leads me to believe that these buildings are excluded from the Egyptian defense bonus.
Yes, I believe it should work like Tower bless. but it is too bad that description so unclear.
 

TinSoldier

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Coalitions!

Egyptian:
This coalition covers 'shooting defensive buildings' according to the folks I talked to, so that's a yes to the Fort and the Bazooka Tower, and a no (for attack damage) for the unit spawning buildings. It seems likely to me that these defensive buildings do benefit from the Hitpoint boost.

Maori:
This does not cover Generals, since Generals are called out in other places as their own unit types with their own bonuses. It does cover defenders spawned from defensive buildings. For other units, such as Troop Tactics, it largely depends on what type of troop they are - and there are a lot of them! As a general rule of thumb, if they match a regular defender type (Soldier or Calvary), odds are they will benefit from the Coalition. Otherwise, these units function normally.
 

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Coalitions!

Egyptian:
This coalition covers 'shooting defensive buildings' according to the folks I talked to, so that's a yes to the Fort and the Bazooka Tower, and a no (for attack damage) for the unit spawning buildings. It seems likely to me that these defensive buildings do benefit from the Hitpoint boost.

Maori:
This does not cover Generals, since Generals are called out in other places as their own unit types with their own bonuses. It does cover defenders spawned from defensive buildings. For other units, such as Troop Tactics, it largely depends on what type of troop they are - and there are a lot of them! As a general rule of thumb, if they match a regular defender type (Soldier or Calvary), odds are they will benefit from the Coalition. Otherwise, these units function normally.

Thanks Tim. Need some further clarification:
1. is Egyptian applied to Anti-Air?
2. for Maori, is it applied to garrison troop in Town Center? and per my experience , it seems also applied to elephant archers
 

SiuYin

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Another question
3 Mongols is a War Coalition increases the Ballista and Mortar Troop attack speed and also the tactics damage in World War
How the Attack speed buff applied?
Known that Howie base speed is 3s (2.7 with lib technology) and Mortar is 2s
With 52% coalition buff will the speed be
Howie 3 * (1-10% - 52%) = 1.14
Mortar 2 * (1- 52%) = .96

or it is like
Howie 3 * (1-10%) / (1+ 52%
 

Manifesto

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I'm curious, would each of the different calculations actually be noticeable during a battle? :)
 

Motaz Tarek

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i hope they make a separate war stats available so u can check ur defensive buildings and offensive troops stats with war coalitions

it's so unclear how these bonuses work, too many bonuses from library and university making it very difficult to know the new bonuses effect, there should be a detailed info for basic stats and each bonus with the amount it adds and the total sum with end result in each troop/building info screen
 

KniferX

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With a naked eye the difference would probably not be noticeable.
But if we did everything with naked eye comparison we would probably still hunt deer with primitive spears like those poor citizens in Dawn age.
The difference is that the higher value will clean a base several seconds faster, that kinda matters for time breaker.
 

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Yes, we should be able to click on buildings when scouting war bases and get info. In a recent war, there was a building that many of us didn't recognize. Had no idea what it did. Turned out it was the gladiator building, but so few of us got it, that it was hard to figure out what it did.
 

Thevinegru

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You say “defender” but that word is specifically referring to garrison troops in the game. Are you saying Maori also affects light and heavy tanks?

Thanks
 

Aparicio69

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Alguém poderia me dizer se: o bônus de coalizão é aplicado quando as escolhemos na embaixada ou quando a colocamos no campo de batalha?
 
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