Defense is now useless. The AR fix broke the game.

SomeRandomPlayer

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My suggestion is (a) roll back the recent AR change now (b) go with the stated plan (mentioned during the stream, and now in this forum) of reducing (or eliminating) its protection attribute the next release (c) ask geeky community members that have researched this tactic, namely Mums, to help define and implement the parameters.

At present the designers and developers appear to be miscommunicating as the two haven't matched since AR's inception.

I love AR and it has kept the game interesting; few want it nerfed into oblivion and most prefer it remain as the most useful and fun tactic. But this recent change (in the past few days) has made it insane. I still don't think many here realize there was a drastic unannounced recent AR change nor truly understand the impact.
 

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I never said nothing is wrong, just that everyone is free to use the same tactic. In fact l did comment that it's not fair one tactic can undo someone's hard work.
SA players getting minimal rewards compared to the little guy? So what? If you're SA you've done well enough for yourself. I'm CW and more than happy to help others with exposed rss.
Dont be so begrudging and give something back to the community. 🙂
 

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More insane that breaking this tactic is leaving it broken till the next update or whatever. IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED NOW! If it doesn't then just REMOVE IT IMMEDIATLY!

All the gameplay is being ruined, the wars are stupid, everyone 5staring everyone, even globals 5staring full cold war bases.. I do not understand what is going on at BHG, seriously, this is a total joke and a mockery to those who invest so much time and money into building a top defensive base..

Sad times for Dominations!!!
 

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Yes the challenge is to balance the game and no doubt they will after some time, data and even threads like this.
Despite the pettiness in this thread, the balance must err on the side of offense to benefit the majority, as you pointed out.
 

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I have had terrible trouble getting to be able to respond to forum statements/chats so I made another new profile. Anyway I don't know if my last post will get here so I thought I'd respond again. Those that know my game name know that I am a defender. I have played this game for the last 4 years and have spend $1000's on it. I'm not here to complain about the investment etc that I have made. I have thoroughly enjoyed myself over these 4 years even through the dark times in the early days. I have a lot of changes over this time, some good some bad. This change in AR would have to be the worst thing that has occurred to it to date. I have read all the chat here and there are some very good suggestions and unfortunately others that seem to know very little of how the higher ages work wanting to make uninformed comments. This has been very unhelpful. There are a few things that could be done however whatever you choose to do, please test the consequences of your choice before releasing it. As others have commented previously, this needs to be rectified as soon as possible however I would prefer to put up with this an extra week if the solution you come up gets tested and has no other side effects. At the moment I have stopped spending money on buying crowns (I don't buy TT cards) or crowning upgrades until I see a positive outcome to the current situation. Please do this right and in a timely manner.
 

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im NOT in a top alliance and i do NOT have highly developed defenses. but AR definitely needs to be corrected, and probably needs to be nerfed. read on to see what i mean.

first of all, decreasing the effectiveness of the tactic from its current state is not about fairness or making investments worthwhile or anything. its about making the game not ridiculous.

giving us a 2nd airstrip while slightly weakeneing fighter dmg, that was a buff for all offense.
when they had the event with fighters having 2x hp and dmg, that was ridiculuous.

giving us AR with like 260% damage output would be an offense buff.
giving us AR with 667% damage output is ridiculuous.

why do i say 260? the text in the AR info screen suggests 260 not 667 so that number i didnt pull out of the air, bhg suggested it to me. and also, 260% is still much more powerful than what it was before the ‘fix’. AR3 before the fix did 120%. AR4 before the fix did 100%

but i think even at 260% it would still far overpower any other tactic, and should be nerfed further:
260 is a correction not a nerf, and a further nerf should be considered.

people against the correction from 667% to 260%, have you even experienced the full power of bazookas + 7 AR combo?
 
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pckrn

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if you’re using it with infiltrators, reducing damage buff wont affect you as long as movement buff and protection buff are still there
 

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TinSoldier BHG_Muet does this give you enough feedback on this ar tactic level 3 and 4 updates that you sprung on the community with no warning? In particular the point about testing the game environment thoroughly before rushing to release an ad hoc tactic (that i personally think has been coded incorrectly) is one that nexon shd take on board.

​​​​​​​Personally i am not interested to play this current version of the game where every war is a timer war (i havent seen a non perfect star war since this ar update was implemented), where every 320 3d max base full sh full museum gets taken out in 60-70 secs, where the definition between success and failure of an attack or a war is +/- 5-10secs, where there is no need for strategy or planning (a regular 40zook combo + 7ar tactics works in absolutely all cases against all bases, no need for any other troop combo or planning of troop deployments or coalitions strategy or team defense or anything else - all these are brushed over by this overly powered ar tactic that negates any other aspect of the game), etc

would appreciate an update on this issue at your earliest convenience and an immediate fix as well.
 

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He are some examples of wars with big bases in them. This includes bases level +300. Please look at the overall times achieved for the number bases within the war. There isn't a winner where the average time is anywhere near 2 min. There are some where the winning time was just over 1 minute.
 

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Reading with bored face 😑
​​​​​​It's yall protests that need to be NERFED 👿
 

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He are some examples of wars with big bases in them. This includes bases level +300. Please look at the overall times achieved for the number bases within the war. There isn't a winner where the average time is anywhere near 2 min. There are some where the winning time was just over 1 minute.

Out of curiosity, where is it written wars are not allowed to be ''just over 1 minute''?
Where is it written wars must have an average time of 2 minutes or more?
 

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At the least, eliminate, te protection tactic, its obsolete respect the AR.
Protect
Level Damage Reduction
Radius
Duration
1550%300%6s3
28 7s4
Assault Rally 310 8s5
Level
Duration
Speed BoostDamage ReductionDamage IncreaseAttack Speed Increase
War Academy Level
412 9s6
18s100%50%120%60%7514 10s7
210s120%70%150%50%7
312s150%90%180%40%8616 11s8
414s170%90%200%30%9718 13s9

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Manifesto

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They should remove the protect portion of the AR.
The AR shouldn't be a one-stop-shop.
 

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[USER][/USER] Game is broken...... please return the ar to reasonable lvls
 

TheJackals

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Any chance TinSoldier BHG_Muet You could speed up some sort of fix for this!

it has completely ruined wars.

I don't even want to be in wars now!

What is the point when all your big defence bases get taken out in LESS THAN A MINUTE !!??? Are you serious with this crap 🤷🏼‍♀️

make fixing AR your number 1 priority and hurry up about it to!
 

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are they just sitting back in their armchairs laughing at the idiots that spend their salary on the game and than thinks to be entitled to tell BHG how to do their business...LOL
 

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@ Manifesto you are the man, as ever. You know where the issue is? with people..like my wife...when it winter it is cold, when it is spring she wants the summer, when it is summer it is too hot, when it is fall she is sad for the threes....
 

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Guys, we just need to shift our definition of "defense." Now it is defined as any base that lasts longer than 70 seconds. :)
 
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