How do the metals system work?

UrGrestestEnemy

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Here is what's I have found that is messed up. I'm in the gunpowder age level 107 right now with over 1500 medals I attacked a person in the Enlightenment age level 134 I destroyed 50% and his Town Center.
Now I only got 4 medals for defeating a person that was a higher level and more advanced age he did a revenge attack he destroyed 50% and my town center and took 11 metals. How does that work?
Don't you think you should get more medals for attacking more advanced level and civilizations and people that attack lower levels and civilizations should get less medals. Or at least you should get the same amount of medals for the same amount of destruction caused. Another thing I found is I cannot find anybody lower than me in the League I'm in. You should base your fighting system on level not on leagues and medals. I don't want to have to lose and knock myself out of a league just so I can fight people who are in the same age.
 
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meDals gained/lost are determined by the opponents meDal count. if you have 200 meDals and your opponent has 150, you will gain less from attacking him than he will gain from a revenge attack on you. the players Base Age and Level do not factor into the calculation for meDal gains/losses.
 

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My point is it should matter the way the system is set up allows people to sandbag more like I said it's really hard for me right now because I'm at such a high medal count I have over 1580 medals I never have find anybody who is a lower age then me. Which means every battle I fight if somebody in the enlightenment age which means it's almost impossible to get a complete victory. The only option I have is to sandbag which is not my style I prefer to win every battle.
 
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maybe the word sandbagging is confusing people with the alliance sandbagging issue
I think the point of the medal system is that it is meant to be brutal to get up there
 

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My point is it should matter the way the system is set up allows people to sandbag more like I said it's really hard for me right now because I'm at such a high meDal count I over 1580 meTals I rarely have find anybody who is a lower age then me. Which means every battle I fight if somebody in the enlightenment age which means it's almost impossible to get a complete victory. The only option I have is to sandbag which is not my style I prefer to win every battle.

Almost. So close.

You need to drop metals
 

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My point is it should matter the way the system is set up allows people to sandbag more like I said it's really hard for me right now because I'm at such a high medal count I have over 1580 metals I rarely have find anybody who is a lower age then me. Which means every battle I fight if somebody in the enlightenment age which means it's almost impossible to get a complete victory. The only option I have is to sandbag which is not my style I prefer to win every battle.

quit crying about it being hard. if you want to gain high meDals then you will have to grind 1-3 star victories. Otherwise lower your medals to where you can easily earn 5 star victories.

This medal system is how nearly every game i have played works.
 

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How it works ,you are a Gunpowder age so you can attack one age lower then you (Medeavel in your case) as a bottom line and there is no upper line (if you go too high it is possible to fight players that are 2-3 ages above you) Natural stopper that pervent you from going too high .Why is that ? well we have 1 leaderboard devided on zones (leagues) and if you think a bit it's logical best of the best to be players from top age (otherwise leaderboard should be devide by ages ...but it's not) So when you start hitting the wall you need to upgrade something in order to continue climbing ,and if you don't have what to upgrade then you need to improve your skills
 

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Congratulations! You've reached a medal count most don't get to until an age or two later than you. Perhaps that's why everybody is at a higher level. Not too many medieval bases at 1080-2080 medals I'd wager. Now that you have that feather in your cap, you can be realistic and drop your medals down to a more appropriate level for your age. Or you can continue to pound your head against the wall and eke out 1-3 star victories and watch progress slow to a crawl.

You aren't making the leaderboard either way. So continuing to grind out costly victories due to a misplaced sense of pride or accomplishment, in what is essentially a single player game, is your choice. Though you really shouldn't decry the unfairness of the path you choose to walk.
 

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The metal system is pretty simple: every 4h you can send workers to those gold mines, which give metal. Can also gain metal from the league boat. Sandbags is an unrelated topic.
 

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Sorry about the metal medal thing I was using my phones speech to text because my phone keyboard takes up nearly all my screen. First off I'm not crying because things are hard I enjoy a challenge. I just like things to be fair it's really not fair if I'm getting less medals for attacking more advanced civilizations it's not my fault I'm good at the game and set up a proper defense. Why should I be forced to lose to make the game fair. The weak pray on the weak the strong pray upon the strong but I'm a weak praying upon the strong. In leagues I'm sandwiched between people in the industrial Global and atomic age. When searching for a battle the game should not decide on what league you are in but what level you are at it doesn't make a difference attacking somebody with a high medal count or a low medal count you still have to destroy the same buildings to achieve victory.
I will not lower my standards to accommodate those who refuse to raise theirs!
 
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LordJestix

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The system works like it does in EVERY other game. In clash royale i had a level 1 account that using skill allowed me to get into the 6th arena. I was facing other players level 8-10. Is that fair im not facing other level 1s, well yes it is. Most other level 1s are not good enough to get up there thus they shouldnt be facing me. Those guys stuck in arena 6 are not good players and lose to a level 1 player that is much more skilled. Is it fair to them they lose to a level 1?

You are straight up wasting your time only going for 5 star victories. You can loot much faster if you only deploy infantry/shooters and go for the quick loot, thus purposefully losing an attack but gaining lots of loot.

If you want to play at high medals for your age more power too you, but quit crying about it not being fair.

You dont really enjoy a hard challenge or you wouldnt be here complaining about how hard it is.
 

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This is not Crash Royale you are not facing a live opponent like I said you have to destroy the same amount of buildings no matter how many medals you have.
Should you not encourage players to go after the stronger more advanced civilizations to get more medals that is kind of what put me in the predicament I'm in the first place I do not pray on the weak. So I battled more of advanced players who had more medals. I could advance my age but I have a bunch of Library research I would like to get done first I'd also like to clear some more Forest to make room for enlightenment age buildings.
 

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Jestix has a point. If that's what you like to do and how you like to do it, then why are you on here complaining? Enjoy your mad skillz and bizarre sense of moral superiority in a game that you play by yourself. It's a rich tapestry we weave afterall. Best of luck to you.
 

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I'm not complaining I'm just saying things should be a little different if I'm attacking a stronger player I should get more medals then if I attack a weaker one.
I think the main problem is most people in the game only attack weaker players I Attack any player no matter the age or level that has over 250,000 food.
That way even if I lose every one of my troops and take only half of their resources I'm still pretty much guaranteed to have the food to replenish all my troops and some leftover for updates. I don't get the people that attack only to get less then 30,000 in resources and lose all their troops it's a waste of time. I typically take 200,000 to 500,000 in gold or food from each raid.
 

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I'm not complaining I'm just saying things should be a little different if I'm attacking a stronger player I should get more medals then if I attack a weaker one.
I think the main problem is most people in the game only attack weaker players I Attack any player no matter the age or level that has over 250,000 food.
That way even if I lose every one of my troops and take only half of their resources I'm still pretty much guaranteed to have the food to replenish all my troops and some leftover for updates. I don't get the people that attack only to get less then 30,000 in resources and lose all their troops it's a waste of time. I typically take 200,000 to 500,000 in gold or food from each raid.

using your full army and losing a bunch because the base is well developed and the resources are "hidden" behind a bunch of defense is a bad way to farm resources unless there is 1M or more in combined resources.

When im attacking i can make an attack every 1-2 minutes because thats my max troop training time based on the troops i use, unless i find that juicy base and lose an artillery/tank/medic truck.
 

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I don't have the option right now to attack without having full troop and tactics because I can only find people in advanced enlightenment age to fight I need a strong force to defeat them and take there resources that requires me to wait over 2 hours between each attack. I have no problem getting resources I just don't have enough workers to complete all the tasks. I Advanced into gunpowder age a little too fast so it took me a little longer to build up my base I put off researching at the library and clearing forests. If I was really desperate for resources all I would do is make a army of Raiders and one or two wall snappers.
 
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As I said, good luck to you. Make the most of gunpowder and enlightenment ages then. 30 minutes to one hour rebuilds are nothing. When you get to industrial and have to factor in losing planes that take 30 minutes apiece to rebuild you may change your tune. There's also the excitement that will come from constant, nearly-unstoppable attacks in early enlightenment while you repeatedly wait to rebuild after every battle.

What you say is others having low standards, compared to your lofty ideals, could also be construed as people making the most of their limited gameplay time. There's no correct answer per se, and the forum is littered with posts debating the merits and drawbacks of high medals. Whatever floats your boat.
 

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One reason for my high medal count is the first attack people do on me typically fails and it gets me over 20 medals the second time I'm attack they typically only destroy 50% of my town losing me only 3 medals. I have 1598 medals right now and I'm only in the gunpowder age still level 107.
 
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