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Reducing factor for construction and research times depending on the level of development and Age

Sega

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Hello BHG!

Why not introduce a reduction factor for of construction and research times, depending on the level of development and Age?

In any Age, the construction of any structure or any research takes the same time - residents are distracted for a long time. The construction time is already prohibitive - a week or more, and it doesn’t matter whether it’s the Stone Age or the Cosmic Age.

It would be logical to introduce a reduction factor for time. I will explain using a simple and understandable example from real life. For example, making a metal tool in the Stone Age seems almost impossible and, accordingly, very time-consuming, but already in the Industrial Age such tools are made on an assembly line and it takes very much less time.

The Age and level of development in themselves suggest that the player is actively playing and developing, so why not provide the opportunity to more quickly “bring up to the level” structures or technologies that are lagging behind in development? We are not talking about reducing the time for advanced, so to speak, technologies and structures - let “breakthrough” technologies remain just as difficult to access in time.

I understand your interest in players staying longer in the game, but a situation arises when all the residents are busy with research or construction, and at this time there is practically nothing to do in the game, it becomes uninteresting - progress slows down very much. This factor, on the contrary, reduces interest in the game. Quite quickly you get tired of fighting at the same level, when during the attack there are a lot of resources, and there is simply nowhere to spend them, because... all residents are occupied for a long time. Fighting just to build powerful walls is a very dubious pleasure.

It would be possible to introduce a reduction factor for time depending on the Age and Level of development of the city. There should be constant, tangible progress in the game. It is a matter of your imagination what future developments to propose for cities and civilizations.

Please think about this.

P.S. I ask the players who have been in the game for a long time, who have spent a huge amount of time in such expectations, not to be upset... But the game should develop and be more interesting.
 
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They just reduced times. They just gave all new players huge time off to hurry their progression.

Sounds to me it is never enough till they give everything away for free and if keeps why would anyone buy anything if they just going give it away free in few months.

Here I idea ya should have asked for
Two buttons added Complete button ( maxes everything) and Win button ( heaven forbid new players or anyone have to earn anything)
 

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They just reduced times. They just gave all new players huge time off to hurry their progression.

Sounds to me it is never enough till they give everything away for free and if keeps why would anyone buy anything if they just going give it away free in few months.

Here I idea ya should have asked for
Two buttons added Complete button ( maxes everything) and Win button ( heaven forbid new players or anyone have to earn anything)

You are wrong to be ironic. I absolutely don't want the game to be simplified to just two buttons. But it is important to understand that waiting (especially so long) is the most annoying factor in this game. I just wish the upgrade, construction and research time for "things from past Ages" would be reduced. For example, in the previous Age I built something, so why does it take the same amount of time to build the same thing when moving to the next Age or significantly increasing the level of development? I have already given a direct analogy with real life.

There are much more interesting things in the game - building a defense, the correct location of buildings, various methods and techniques for attacking the enemy.
But when you are fully provided with resources (there is nowhere else to put them), and you have to stupidly wait until construction or research is completed - it’s infuriating.

Or come up with and introduce into the game some tasks, mechanisms that also increase power of the city or troops, on which you can spend resources to improve your own city while waiting for the construction or research process. In this case, it will be fair that more active players will receive a greater increase in the defense, power of the city and troops.

P.S. Anticipating the possible answer that you can leave one resident and build walls with the resources received... Yes, I already heard this answer in technical support - a very stupid recommendation. That's why I see that many cities are labyrinths of massive walls, without any clear logical structure of construction - just something would be...

P.S.S. Now, when I see someone’s very developed city in a PvP battle, I don’t have the thought “how smart you are that you could build something like this!”, no, on the contrary, I think “how much time did you kill in this game for waiting"
 
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Blah blah I am new or want everything for free so I will cry for reduced times blah same post over and over and if BHG is dumb enough to give in and cutt their own throat and lose money so be it . But i say worst words ever Earn It stop crying for reducing time they already did
 

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Blah blah I am new or want everything for free so I will cry for reduced times blah same post over and over and if BHG is dumb enough to give in and cutt their own throat and lose money so be it . But i say worst words ever Earn It stop crying for reducing time they already did
If it's just about money, then I would pay for this good game, but I don't have the opportunity - Google Pay is blocked in Russia

But in any case, the time frame is too long and the same for any level of development and Age, I repeat again. The point is not to reduce the time for construction and research, but to make the deadlines more flexible, so to speak.
 
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Well I do not care. It is about money in the end. Do you really think BHG does this for fun. They do it pay bills. Not my problem or game maker problem if your country can’t use google pay etc.

So because you can’t pay your going to devalue what those that can have bought.

Simple they already reduce most times below industrial over 50% stop the crying for more.

It’s pretty funny ya mention google pay don’t work in Russia then how are some many Russia accounts Auto age and stuff they had to pay for lol sound little fishy
 
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Well I do not care. It is about money in the end. Do you really think BHG does this for fun. They do it pay bills. Not my problem or game maker problem if your country can’t use google pay etc.

So because you can’t pay your going to devalue what those that can have bought.

Simple they already reduce most times below industrial over 50% stop the crying for more.
Don't worry so much about money! This question really alarmed you... I understand perfectly well that developing and maintaining this game is a huge work of many people, which must be paid... But because of money, the plot of the game is being delayed so much... I apologize if I offended you in any way BHG.

We have no choice but to prolong the pleasure :cool:
 

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No what you offered was a beg for a hand out on the expense of the paying players and that has gotten little old with all the handout they already gave
 

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No what you offered was a beg for a hand out on the expense of the paying players and that has gotten little old with all the handout they already gave

By the way, thank you very much to BHG for the improvements! They are really useful, thanks! (y) I compare it to what happened a year ago.

And don’t make me look like a beggar here... I was just talking about the flexible distribution of time in the game - the higher the player’s level, the less time-consuming it is to do what is not completed.
Enough explanations about money, third post already.
 

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so like game of war fire age, rise of kingdoms their buildings have little percentage modifiers that het better per age or upgrading the building
 

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Moreover, we are not talking about free bonuses or speedups. Both those who pay and those who cannot pay will receive the same benefits in development - this is only an improvement in the dynamics of the game.
 

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It’s same thing basically like this

Level 400 account cost lets say 5000 dollars currently
To get to 400 cost 2500 to 3000 with your reductions
So cry me river go play other games mentioned
I DO NOT CARE YOU CANT PAY CAUSe You live in Russia.

Stop crying for free hand out of reducing building time etc I for one don’t care. As a paying player I am tired of seeing my stuff devalued to please people that can’t pay or put time we did. Don’t like it don’t care
 

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It’s same thing basically like this

Level 400 account cost lets say 5000 dollars currently
To get to 400 cost 2500 to 3000 with your reductions
So cry me river go play other games mentioned
I DO NOT CARE YOU CANT PAY CAUSe You live in Russia.

Stop crying for free hand out of reducing building time etc I for one don’t care. As a paying player I am tired of seeing my stuff devalued to please people that can’t pay or put time we did. Don’t like it don’t care
No, nothing is depreciated, but only an acceleration of the development process and more players who are interested in the game. This reminds me of something about the “golden billion”... There will be few players in the game, who will you play with then, even for your money? What makes the game interesting is that there are many players, including those who cannot pay! There is no need to boast here about what you pay, so it’s somehow exceptional. Playing for money gives you a lot of benefits, so don't be shy. Believe me, to get to those levels that you buy for money, for free, it takes a lot of work, skill and time.

So I even became interested... For you, is the game yet another way to show your wealth, or is it still the gameplay and the ability to win? In the game, as in life, you will constantly be “treading on your heels” by those who are smarter and more agile than you, even if they don’t have money yet - come to terms with it! (Money can buy a diploma, but not knowledge)
If you understood even a little mathematics, you would understand perfectly well that the introduction of a reduction coefficient is equivalent for all players, even for those who pay - you will still have an advantage. Moreover, with each payment the coefficient for you will also increase more and more, which means that your future investments will become even cheaper - I hope you at least know how to count money?
And stop yelling in the forum “give me back my glory for my money!” - this already looks funny.

P.S. There is no need to pretend to be sponsors and patrons of the arts. Your statement that the game depends only on you is false, because each player makes at least a small but feasible contribution by watching at least advertising videos - daily 4 (previously there were 8) and 4 for Marco Polo, and for watching these videos BHG also receives money (albeit, perhaps not much) - this is called paid content that is not expensive, but due to the many views it still generates profit.
 
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Blah blah blah

Another poor poor poor me I can’t keep up, cant spend , can’t catch up to people that been playing for years and I just started. So I am going boohoo cry and hope BHG gives ya another advantage on the bad people that been here since start and have paid their dues in money time and skill.

How about doing something like earning it and stop trying to devalue other players accounts cause you can’t start out on top and you expect the players that have put time, money and skill toget where they are at to continue to pay for free for you ? Well some of us see it and will call ya out for it.

I never said game depends on me but it does depend on paying customers and people will stop spending if they see no value in what they purchase or it given away free a few months later.
 
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Blah blah blah

Blah blah blah

Another poor poor poor me I can’t keep up, cant spend , can’t catch up to people that been playing for years and I just started. So I am going boohoo cry and hope BHG gives ya another advantage on the bad people that been here since start and have paid their dues in money time and skill.

How about doing something like earning it and stop trying to devalue other players accounts cause you can’t start out on top and you expect the players that have put time, money and skill toget where they are at to continue to pay for free for you ? Well some of us see it and will call ya out for it.

I never said game depends on me but it does depend on paying customers and people will stop spending if they see no value in what they purchase or it given away free a few months later.
Blah blah blah

Like a broken record... In short, everything is clear with you! You don’t have to continue, you’ve already shown your essence to the fullest.

Let real BHG specialists figure out whether this is needed in the game or not. Nobody needs your money rhetoric of a little man placed on money here.

P.S. You have no idea who I am in life and what financial capabilities I have, but you are drawing some worthless conclusions of your own. Take better care of yourself!

P.S.S. From the point of view of banal erudition... everything looks like you are a beggar who invested his last money in order to somehow rise above others (psychology), and now you are afraid of falling off the throne, and therefore you are screaming at the top of your lungs in fear. Everything looks exactly like this, and not the way you try to portray yourself as a wealthy person.
Normal people take care of themselves, and they don’t really care how other people can get the same thing, the main thing is that you yourself have already received it.
 
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Really lol Your funny lol You have to stoop to try to make a personal level lol what’s next mommy jokes here’s one I love my mom and you can too for $9.95 lol

Brother it is simple I don’t think it right to give handouts in life or in games. Given that why would I ever agree to punishing old account holders by devaluing the time skill and money that most drone age and above have put in game. Just to please people that are either too lazy, impatient, unable to catch up or refuse to pay to catch up.

Simple earn it lol now go smoke a blunt chill play the game and enjoy it. Remember when ya was in high school ya was freshmen ya didn’t start out a senior lol
 

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Really lol Your funny lol You have to stoop to try to make a personal level lol what’s next mommy jokes here’s one I love my mom and you can too for $9.95 lol

Brother it is simple I don’t think it right to give handouts in life or in games. Given that why would I ever agree to punishing old account holders by devaluing the time skill and money that most drone age and above have put in game. Just to please people that are either too lazy, impatient, unable to catch up or refuse to pay to catch up.

Simple earn it lol now go smoke a blunt chill play the game and enjoy it. Remember when ya was in high school ya was freshmen ya didn’t start out a senior lol
So is it still "Level 400 account cost lets say 5000 dollars currently" or $9.95? You will decide on the amounts.

Finally... Following your logic (in all), any improvements in the game that will allow players to develop faster is a devaluation of your money. You are funny
 
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Hello BHG!

Why not introduce a reduction factor for of construction and research times, depending on the level of development and Age?

In any Age, the construction of any structure or any research takes the same time - residents are distracted for a long time. The construction time is already prohibitive - a week or more, and it doesn’t matter whether it’s the Stone Age or the Cosmic Age.

It would be logical to introduce a reduction factor for time. I will explain using a simple and understandable example from real life. For example, making a metal tool in the Stone Age seems almost impossible and, accordingly, very time-consuming, but already in the Industrial Age such tools are made on an assembly line and it takes very much less time.

The Age and level of development in themselves suggest that the player is actively playing and developing, so why not provide the opportunity to more quickly “bring up to the level” structures or technologies that are lagging behind in development? We are not talking about reducing the time for advanced, so to speak, technologies and structures - let “breakthrough” technologies remain just as difficult to access in time.

I understand your interest in players staying longer in the game, but a situation arises when all the residents are busy with research or construction, and at this time there is practically nothing to do in the game, it becomes uninteresting - progress slows down very much. This factor, on the contrary, reduces interest in the game. Quite quickly you get tired of fighting at the same level, when during the attack there are a lot of resources, and there is simply nowhere to spend them, because... all residents are occupied for a long time. Fighting just to build powerful walls is a very dubious pleasure.

It would be possible to introduce a reduction factor for time depending on the Age and Level of development of the city. There should be constant, tangible progress in the game. It is a matter of your imagination what future developments to propose for cities and civilizations.

Please think about this.

P.S. I ask the players who have been in the game for a long time, who have spent a huge amount of time in such expectations, not to be upset... But the game should develop and be more interesting.
Thank you for your feedback, our team is currently hard at work implementing many quality-of-life features to the game. We have introduced our progression acceleration that may answer to some of this feedback providing up to a 95% reduction in resources and time to improve your early-age buildings and Troops. The team continues to monitor the feedback provided on the forums and appreciates it!
 

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Thank you for your feedback, our team is currently hard at work implementing many quality-of-life features to the game. We have introduced our progression acceleration that may answer to some of this feedback providing up to a 95% reduction in resources and time to improve your early-age buildings and Troops. The team continues to monitor the feedback provided on the forums and appreciates it!
Thank you for paying attention to requests
With the amount of resources, everything is fine, but reducing time will help a lot.
Thank you
 

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Both sides are imo right,

Anyway Sega, game surely should do speed up stuff for certain ages, but with actual reason, not too much. Already they did a nice thing, by decreasing time on beginning eras, and that should be enough for now. if they did that constantly and in big scale, game would end up like Forge of Empires most likely, I mean they do constantly bring stuff better than stuff before, increase requirement to be competitive, keeping them well fed of money, cuz people seem to like waste money, but people who actually thing, they don't which is reasonable. So even tho DomiNation decided to speed up things again, wouldn't lose much, cuz anyway people would buy it.
And last thing, to make people who play for long and missed discounts/speed ups, also give some nice stuff, like idk. insta retrain blessings, or med kit blessings. or speed ups. There's many ways to solve problem of inbalance which any of u could've mentioned, but u didn't.
 
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