How do the metals system work?

Master Contrail Program

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Good for you, man. Hope it lasts. But you can't have your cake and eat it too. You have about twice the medals I usually raided at in gunpowder age. And looking at my alliance screen that seems pretty typical. So naturally your opponents are stronger and rebuilds are longer. I prefer being able to do 3-5 attacks in 30 minutes. Nobody is saying you're ''wrong'' for playing the way you do. It's my understanding that you're able to attack and be attacked within 1000 medals. Where you're at is high even for enlightenment players. You're not going to get many medals because there aren't very many enlightenment players higher than you. Once you get above 2600 medals it's a chore to find bases worth more than 1 whether they're 266 atomics or 180 industrials. That's just how it is. If you're having fun, keep doing what you're doing. If you're getting frustrated, drop down. Nobody has to know but you.
 

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I have problems with this generation gamers correct me if I'm wrong but I feel the millennials have a sense of entitlement, if you're not good and don't have any skills don't worry because the game will cater to your needs. If you can't shoot there's always auto aim if you can't drive there's auto braking and acceleration. If a player has skills will handicap them. I guess I just miss the good old days of survival of the fittest. Lol
 

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Idk. 10 years ago when I got a Wii I happily downloaded a bunch of games I remembered from my youth. The trip down Nostalgia Lane was fun, until the brutal reality set in that I could only get about 2/3rds of the way through the Punch-Outs and Ninja Gaidens the young me could beat with one eye closed.

I can't vouch for the difficulty of modern shooters and action games as I pretty much only play strategy games and RPG's these days. Fortunately, one can find as little or as much challenge as one would like if they look around enough.
 

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UrGrestestEnemy You haven't even gotten to the fun part yet. Get your medals another 1000 higher, and you will be gaining one at a time, and losing 30 if you ever lose. Move up to enlightenment, and suddenly industrials with planes and tanks will start crushing you - and they won't stop as long as you stay in enlightenment. You are at an interesting spot right now, where it is very possible to stay high while being in a low age; probably the next opportunity for that is near the top of industrial or global.
 

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I've always been really good at figuring out games the first game I played online against people was Need for Speed Carbon on Xbox 360 I won like 10 times in a row I couldn't figure out why people sucked so much turns out I may have been a little gifted at the game. Within a year I was top 20 in the world and I could beat most people in a dump truck literally they had a dump truck you could drive and I would tear up newbies in it. That got boring after a while so I switched to Rainbow Six Vegas I was really good at it then came Forza I was in top 1% of the world on X-class cars. But now I live in the country with only satellite internet so my online gaming career is really limited. Lol
 

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That's why I have been staying in gunpowder age I know if I move up I'll be attacked by Industrial Age gamers I'd like to research all of my library upgrades before moving on to the next age.
 

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If people want to stay low that's fine for them, other people will progress and get better by meeting challenges, then beating them.
We don't improve by staying where we are and doing the same thing over-and-over, we get better by doing things that are more difficult over-and-over. Then when we master that we move on to the next difficult thing.
At least, that's what us old people do/did ! :D
 

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If people want to stay low that's fine for them, other people will progress and get better by meeting challenges, then beating them.
We don't improve by staying where we are and doing the same thing over-and-over, we get better by doing things that are more difficult over-and-over. Then when we master that we move on to the next difficult thing.
At least, that's what us old people do/did ! :D

That is what I'm talking about why should I be forced to lose games to knock myself out of the league I'm in to make the game easier we live in a dog-eat-dog world nobody is protected because they're in different League in life. Why are we protecting players that can't hack it by throwing them with other players that can't hack it. I choose to play games because they are hard not because they are easy see this is why we don't travel to the Moon anymore. lol
 

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Here's an idea no leagues at all and you can only attack people that are in your age or higher this would help players that just upgraded there age to stand a chance in battle. When I upgrade essentially I'll be fighting people that are two ages above me. Then I'll be put at even more of a disadvantage because I'll be having to construct and upgrade my defensive buildings which puts them out of commission making me even weaker to attacks. As I said I don't mind a challenge but I also like a fair fight and as things stand it's not a fair fight. I get other people had to go through what I'm about to when I upgrade my age but that doesn't make it suck any less. lol
 
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Here's an idea no leagues at all and you can only attack people that are in your age or higher this would help players that just upgraded there age to stand a chance in battle. When I upgrade essentially I'll be fighting people that are two ages above me. Then I'll be put at even more of a disadvantage because I'll be having to construct and upgrade my defensive buildings which puts them out of commission making me even weaker to attacks. As I said I don't mind a challenge but I also like a fair fight and as things stand it's not a fair fight. I get other people had to go through what I'm about to when I upgrade my age but that doesn't make it suck any less. lol

Unless you increase victory chest and rewards intensity and quantity tenfold, with the current cost to upgrade things, you're gonna be starving for resources really fast. Let's face it, the best way to get resources now is to attack and destroy weaker bases, for diamonds, NTGs and resources.
The best you can do to repulse stronger players from destroying your base is to give them minimal loot and guaranteed casualties. No one likes to retrain their cannons after a raid where they got poor loot.
The core MP system is like that currently and it won't change, adapt and evolve is all I can say.
 

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That is what I'm talking about why should I be forced to lose games to knock myself out of the league I'm in to make the game easier we live in a dog-eat-dog world nobody is protected because they're in different League in life. Why are we protecting players that can't hack it by throwing them with other players that can't hack it. I choose to play games because they are hard not because they are easy see this is why we don't travel to the Moon anymore. lol

You argue against yourself. You say you love the challenge and you dont want things to be easier for you, yet you complain that because of your skill you get hard matchups that barely gain any medals and if you are attacked you will lose a lot.

You also presume a lot. Just because some of us stay lower medals doesnt mean we arent skilled or cannot hack it. I work 50 hrs a week and have 2 young boys at home. I also like to do other things like biking, tennis, golf, working out, playing poker at friends houses, go to sporting events etc, i dont have the time to play less efficient by getting into the medal range i know i could do.

Multiplayer is nothing more than a means to gain loot for upgrading your base. War is where i go for more skilled attacks, where i use my generals and tactics and other things. My time is limited so i need to be the most efficient i can with that time and that means staying around 700 medals for easy loot.

My guess is you dont war otherwise you wouldnt be so high in medals. since its so hard to get 4-5 stars up there you cant earn enough ntg to maintain coalitions for war.
 

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You are right that I'm currently not in a clan and do not participate in Wars, but that also put at a disadvantage because I'm not gifted atomic age troops to help me in battles. As for the time I spend on the game usually check my base every morning if I'm under a peace treaty which I normally am, I note the time it will be over pull my phone out of my pocket a half hour before that time and do an attack. I'll keep my Vault full of either food or gold depending upon which upgrade I'm looking to get next. with the resources I get from the raid plus the resources I got from the peace treaty I gain more resources than people normally take I space my updates apart from each other so I can keep all my workers working on projects. So far things are working out pretty well I'm sure things will change when I upgrade to Industrial Age and I'll need more resources for upgrades.
All I'm saying is the system of how many medals you get is dependent upon how many medals the other player has is not a good system, if you want to get people to attack their own age or higher offer them better rewards for that otherwise you're going to have what you have right now of people just praying upon the weak.
 

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You are right that I'm currently not in a clan and do not participate in Wars, but that also put at a disadvantage because I'm not gifted atomic age troops to help me in battles. As for the time I spend on the game usually check my base every morning if I'm under a peace treaty which I normally am, I note the time it will be over pull my phone out of my pocket a half hour before that time and do an attack. I'll keep my Vault full of either food or gold depending upon which upgrade I'm looking to get next. with the resources I get from the raid plus the resources I got from the peace treaty I gain more resources than people normally take I space my updates apart from each other so I can keep all my workers working on projects. So far things are working out pretty well I'm sure things will change when I upgrade to Industrial Age and I'll need more resources for upgrades.
All I'm saying is the system of how many medals you get is dependent upon how many medals the other player has is not a good system, if you want to get people to attack their own age or higher offer them better rewards for that otherwise you're going to have what you have right now of people just praying upon the weak.

My advice to you is to stop looking at MP as a competitive field and enter an alliance & world wars as soon as you can. Multiplayer is where you get resources to upgrade your base and NTG's and diamonds for world war. Nothing more. World Wars are the place where you can show and measure your skill in attacking and making good defense bases and where you will help your team, not to mention war loot and rubies for Marco Polo offers. The faster you do this the more enjoyable the game will become.
 

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All I'm saying is the system of how many medals you get is dependent upon how many medals the other player has is not a good system, if you want to get people to attack their own age or higher offer them better rewards for that otherwise you're going to have what you have right now of people just praying upon the weak.


This is how EVERY game i have ever seen like this works, or any game that uses a medal system for ranking players works. You gain/lose medals based on your opponents medals compared to your own.

By not playing in wars, you are essentially playing farmville/sim city but have to attack for resources.

You are missing out on the competitive part of the game. Most dont make their normal MP bases to defend against 5star attacks. Most i know make their base to protect their oil and thats it.

do you know what the top medal holders have to do to earn medals? They have to snipe TCs and thats it. They go for the 1-2 star victory to gain just a few medals.

It also sounds like you have a resource issue. I know when i was EA i had my library tech maxed well before i got my defense fully upgraded to move to the next age. I also had all my troops/tactics/coalitions maxed as well.


Again, quit complaining about a system that every other game uses and really means nothing for competition.
 

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I would join an alliance but I'm only in gunpowder age I would not be much help to anyone higher than me. Also I'm not big on Clans there's usually a lot of unnecessary drama plus I don't like to rely on other people.
I have made an alliance and I have another user account on my computer I use only to pass myself troops it's in gunpowder age also but now due to the discounts and immediate age upgrades it is now in the Industrial age I'll just need to get my troops upgraded. And because I never use it to attack anybody it's never attacked.
But if we had a system we're we didn't rely on medals and leagues it would be attacked all the time because all the defensive buildings are like in the stone Age. lol
 
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If you are interested, please consider stopping by HTC Blue Crush, we'd be glad to accept Gunpowder age players. For the alliances who have been participating in wars for a while, they will have reached a perk that allows any troop donations below Industrial level to be upgraded to Industrial level.
 
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