Major dilemma over which nation to pick, need some guidance

Zyklon

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Been playing the game for months as Japanese, and think they are one of the worse nations out there, i remember months ago they used to be one of the most popular nations i guess because players back then used infantry in their army mixed and the shooting TC was good to boost your defences

the samurai unit is nearly useless past medieval age, they are weak to pretty much any type of defence there is, they die extremely quickly to mortals and redoubts, even at medieval age I would send a army of like something like 40 heavy samurais, 15 archers and by the end of any given match I would have more surviving non-upgraded arches then the heavy samurais, and when the army was wiped the archers would always be the last units to die, so really there is no point in using infantry over archers, apart from lower cost training time and cost

they are just awful units, when they stick together they get destroyed in a fraction of a second by redoubts, when they spread out they still get their ass kicked by defenders, towers, or anything on the map, the only good strategy I thought that maybe would work would be to rally the enemy TC and use sabotage on near by defences, that way you can score cheap 1-2 star victories, it takes no so long to rebuild such a army so you could just keep doing it, but you wont get much supplies on each raid, and even if this tactic works you better off with germans since they have the same unit + better rally, and +15% damage for winning

other stuff that japanese have

+25% peace treaty, this sounds ok if you not very active and just sometimes want sit back while your farm/caravens slowly build resources for you, but its rather boring that you can't raid, and i think the korean +10% refund bonus is a much better deal for defensive players because that works regardless of your raiding or not

shooting TC is crap, the damage is lower then a non-upgraded tower, they should do the same damage as a tower at least, in later ages it really doesnt matter if you have a shooting TC or not, it wont keep your from losing if the enemy has the edge on battle

the japanese really needs a buff, the TC should have a higher DPS then a regular tower

I like the japanese for their building design, but im going to revolt soon or later for either Britain or Korea, Britain has a really good unit + loot bonus that could be beneficial for me, or I will just keep playing for now as japanese and wait until there is a new nation, i hope they make russians soon
 

sawoo

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I'm playing French, and i can say they truly don't have any destructive troop for wars/attacks
But their major advantage is that you can get rich real fast, even faster than nations with resources bonus or whatsoever . I stick to Copper I or Silver III, there i can find many players with uncollected Caravans, Farms which gives lots and lots of resources ( if we play smart, of course ) . Just drop some Ranged Calvary, spearmen, archers and i have got bunch of Resources . And the training time is really fast . You don't have to be online for like 24/24 . Just play regularly when you have free time .
For other countries, i'm not sure . But according to some of my friends, if you go to war. take Koreans , Their bonus Tactic can save many of your troops . Romans, despite having more troops, but if you can't save them, then they will still be useless .
Oh and i think Japan really sucks at war at later ages, since their defense will get slightly weaker and weaker as they advance .

I don't think so.
 

astero

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The 15% damage bonus that Germany gets after each win looks very enticing indeed.

And the Vandal unit is already +20%, so I take it everything is cumulative and you can go into battle with it inflicting 35% more damage? And with the weapons boost on top of that they should be going through buildings like cardboard.

Another thing I like about the Germans is more control on the battlefield.

Overall they are one of the best countries in the game.
 

Crimsondragonfly

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I have the Notre Dame and it saves you A LOT of resources. Especially in your age and in EA. I'm not IA yet but from what I'm hearing resources aren't as hard to come by so I may switch to the FC in IA once I have most of my upgrades done.
 

Halsjen

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And the Vandal unit is already +20%, so I take it everything is cumulative and you can go into battle with it inflicting 35% more damage? And with the weapons boost on top of that they should be going through buildings like cardboard.

Don't get your hopes up. Vandals are useless, there's just no way around it. They go down like paper.
 

Ravenlord

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They're not ''useless'' per se - just not as effective in EA or IA if a player relies on a Vandal-heavy army. They're a specialty unit in later stages and for that reason they're great for sniping farms/rss or TCs or for a last minute clean-up. Three or four vandals can easily net you 150k+ food with the right base or take down a defensive building at the last minute.

I always donate them to myself - you'll be surprised how handy an extra 12 tough footmen can be!! :cool:

Like any troop, you have to know and use their strengths.
 

Ravenlord

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I have 4 nations ..... we are an alliance unto ourselves !! :cool:

I don't play enough to be of use to any other alliance - although I have been asked to join an alliance and I will be doing that soon. I'll miss me .....
 
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Freightshaker

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They're not ''useless'' per se - just not as effective in EA or IA if a player relies on a Vandal-heavy army. They're a specialty unit in later stages and for that reason they're great for sniping farms/rss or TCs or for a last minute clean-up. Three or four vandals can easily net you 150k+ food with the right base or take down a defensive building at the last minute.

I always donate them to myself - you'll be surprised how handy an extra 12 tough footmen can be!! :cool:

Like any troop, you have to know and use their strengths.

I keep 9 in reserve just for clean up. IMO, they're better, and cheaper, than raiders.
 

astero

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Just drop em and go. Literally so easy to loot with, takes like zero skill.

And the Japanese Samurai don't fet mowed down in no time? I thought Britain was the easy deploy&wait nation due to the archers with increased range (so as soon as catapults are taken care off they clear everything out easily)?
 

Ravenlord

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For any nation use tanks to distract the catapalts/towers - then use the archers to kill. The Brit archer is great is you want an all-archer army to drop & wait - but where's the skill in that?
Most foot soldiers can loot uncollected rss or do a last minute cleanup with little effort.
 

Wicked Odie

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And the Japanese Samurai don't fet mowed down in no time? I thought Britain was the easy deploy&wait nation due to the archers with increased range (so as soon as catapults are taken care off they clear everything out easily)?


Obviously you have to pick and choose your bases, but even if i lose all my samurai, that's like 18 minutes i have to wait to restock them all. If I lose a bombard i have to wait 16 minutes. Half the time I dont even have to use all my samurai. So at the end of the day, samurai spam for looting is pretty awesome. Sure sometimes i get mowed down really easy, but some times I can get in and out quick.
 
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