Moctezuma leader

[TizzZeus]

i do like the vault storing 12k oil now, with a 12.6k return on collection, Imaera i dont see this as useless. If you use this feature in conjunction with oil rewards from victory chest, and war loots. You can inject like 30k of oil instantly for a valuable upgrade while keeping it away from your main oil capacity storage.

 

[Imaera]

No, that's one of the 3 useful ones, together with coalitions and forest cleaning. All the others are junk. I keep my farms, caravans, roads and oil wells at very low levels due to war strategy, so increased production is nothing basically.

 

[TizzZeus]

OIl rig capacity 50% up is HUGE for me!!! i need my 1.5k oil collection from each rig when i wake up! or after long work days!! Imaera, this is HUGE , i remember talking about this on another post duriing age of summer event, when we couldnt collect enough since the max on oil rigs was so low!

 

[yemen]

Oil rig capacity being up with appropriate incentives for every active player to do the research is fantastic. That is significantly more oil to be raided from your base right before you wake up / get off work. I'll do it to get to the stuff beyond, but it won't make a big difference to my one level 2 oil well.

 

[KniferX]

What's up with people that are looking at this leader addition from such a shallow perspective?
Anything that doesn't directly buff your troops is apparently useless?

Hunting and harvesting will now take only 2 seconds compared to the previous 20! I mean, I guess you liked sitting down and waiting for these timers to tick?

50% more resources from farms and caravans, on top of the 40% permanent increase. It means more loot for everyone when raiding! Useless right?

Vault capacity is also apparently useless, even though putting 4000 more oil in reserve is a nice touch to save you just slightly more oil from raids and also give you more oil if you collect 24 hours. Not everyone is a raiding machine that has all day for oil raids you know?

To connect to that, increased capacity for oil wells means you'll actually get to collect the oil that you make, given with Amelia research and the permanent buff to production, oil wells overflow in ~5 hours. Again, some people get a large percentage of the oil from their own production. Plus, more oil pumped in the game for everyone to raid.

Admittedly, double the resources from hunting and harvesting is very underwhelming and it would've been better if instead this had chapters concerning worker reductions for those activites.

So there are the "useless" researches.

 

[Quovatis]

It will cutdown on my "bathroom breaks" at work to harvest everything. Can't complain.

 

[Quovatis]

Economic building have no impact on war weight, so upgrading them will not affect war at all (except for the slightly more hitpoints).

 

[TizzZeus]

Shallow you players are for complaining that this new economy leader is crap! i personally like them all! and im a raid monster, yet i value my oil storage savings and oil production of my own base! i also like stacking blessing with animal and gatherings. Also, farms and caravans overall will be like the rush for summer productions!

 

[melheor]

Agree, would be nice to see a research that reduces the number of workers needed to hunt an animal by say... 2, with the minimum being 1 worker.

 

[melheor]

What Quovatis said, they have no impact on war, the HP difference isn't even that big to matter. The only thing they do is artificially raise your level up, making you look more intimidating on paper to loot hunters. However, they also increase your loot capacity, making you a juicier target.

 

[melheor]

Even the 2x resources from hunting/harvesting comes in handy. I often raid towards an upgrade and then get careless towards the end and get wiped out with 100-200k gold/food to go. Rather than waiting over an hour for my army to get rebuilt or waste crowns, I now have a chance of making up those extra resources from hunting. A single bear is 30k gold, which means 60k now. Previously I used to store piles of gold/food in my base, but now all empty spots are busy with oil. I'd welcome an addition of a larger oil pile as well for 3 diamonds, that way I can actually have some free land to build that missile silo.

 

[LordJestix]

which as i said above, makes these researches essentially useless.

 

[Quovatis]

Might be largely useless, but at least it doesn't take a week to research each level of them like the old leaders.

 

[LordJestix]

Oil rig capacity being up with appropriate incentives for every active player to do the research is fantastic. That is significantly more oil to be raided from your base right before you wake up / get off work. I'll do it to get to the stuff beyond, but it won't make a big difference to my one level 2 oil well.

The ONLY reason ill upgrade these is because i want the capstone to help with NTG.

 

[Imaera]

I noticed it's easier/faster to achieve 50% QV on bases with well placed FC and maxed out farms/oil wells. So for me, they have impact on war. Depends on your attack strategy. Roads and caravans are low, just for keeping my level down.

 

[SiuYin]

I will only complete Forest and coalition.
Others are meaningless to me (capstone one as well)

 

[Manifesto]

LordJestix, you don't have to complete ALL researches. Look at the ordinary ones as' necessary hurdles' to get the important ones.
However, if you don't like the researches that's fine, I'm sure others will be more than happy to keep progressing ahead of you.

 

[Manifesto]

Like anything Nexon is learning, from their experience or our feedback. So you're not interested in the latest leader, I'm sure there are 1 or maybe 3-4 other new players out there who are.
Yes, it would've been great to have this one at the beginning but life doesn't only revolve around us AA players!

 

[Manifesto]

I'm amazed at the players who say this new leader is useless, yet talk about ''important'' researches like clearing forests. Personally, I have cleared all my AA forests because I like a nice big base, but how does cleared forests help your economy or your raiding? The forest clearing research is probably the least useful for playing this game.
That aside, all these economic boosts are long term, and that explains why some people are complaining.
Sure you might think it's useless now to upgrade your farm or caravan or oil production but, like TizzZeus said, extra oil or resources is a great bonus.
Thinking long-term, once you pay for the research you'll enjoy the benefits forever!

 

[Imaera]

Not everybody in the game finished clearing 21 days forests. Clearing forests doesn't help economy, helps arranging a strong war base. Cause not everybody in the game is a farmer.
Reducing forest cleaning from 21 to 14 days isn't useful, but wow, happy days! We have 2 chapters for saving 8 seconds on hunting!