nerf the dang raiders already

[Gambrinus]

I'm sick and tired of being attacked every few minutes by large groups of raiders just for my res.

 

[Hunter Killer]

That's what raiders have been designed for... Maybe you should better protect your resources or find a different alternative like going higher in medals where no one cares about resources.

Otherwise, why don't we just remove raiders from the game so no one gets resources stolen anymore? What I have suggested to BHG is to include resources lost as a criteria to get a peace treaty. I think that would be fair instead of nerfing everything.

In the meantime, you are compensated with crowns for killing these raiders. I used to voluntarily sacrifice resources i.e. make it easy to be raided so I would get crowns in return. I could make 20 crowns a night losing about 2m resources. If there was a feature to trade resources for crowns here 100k for 1 crown, I'm sure a lot of people would use it. Here you have one embedded in the game. Try to make the best out of the game environment and adapt.

 

[Gambrinus]

I've tried higher medal counts, but then it's non stop cheater bases, and i get smashed by max IA bases with 2 lv 30 generals, 5 tactics, full mercs, ect. so because of that frustration, it causes me to drop medals. but now it's every few minutes a smash and grab attack with 30 or more raiders, which is bs. the have nerfed every other unit when people abused them, so why have they been slacking with the raiders? the idea behind them is to use a few and clean up farms and caravans, not to use a full army of them to just grab resources and leave me without a dove, so it can just happen again.

 

[Hunter Killer]

How high in medals did you go? You should be pretty safe around 800-1000 with each resource building in its own wall compartment and with your town center unprotected. Most people will just take your TC for medals and leave straight away. I don't think anyone with a full IA max army lurks below 1000 unless they are on the way up and you're unlucky to be around.

 

[Gambrinus]

I've been up to ~2000 medals, and just got feed up with it, so i dropped down to ~500 medals, and now it's just raider spam. I'll get up to ~1000 medals, and see how that goes, but honestly this game had just become way more frustrating than fun... i really wish i could just delete my village at this point.

 

[Jaysus]

I love raider attacks. They do jack squat to my base.

 

[Hunter Killer]

Yeah you're comparing extremes here. Below 500 medals is full raiders territory. I used to play below 300 medals for that purpose and I made a fortune

2000 medals is way too high if you don't want to get your base completely wiped out by a max army. You should be happy around 1000 medals with the right base layout.

 

[Eddie F1]

You didn't say where your TC is?

I'm pretty much as HunterKiller. TC outside, 3 x 8 hour PT a day, the problems you describe went away around 1000-1200 medals, folk snipe the TC for the medal and trade good and generally leave everything else. 1 in 10 attacks is a full blown attempt, but that's usually when full of gold, food, diamond. Leaving little gold is just a TC snipe. I try to farm crowns too from killing TC attackers - been harder the last 9 days while TC upgrades, defenders + allies all on an extended tea-break.

 

[Gambrinus]

my TC is right at the bottom right corner, fully exposed and easy to take. i also have one of my mills right next to it, so the attacker can get some loot when then get the TC. i know people want res, and I'm fine with losing some, that's part of the game. it's just frustrating that i get attacked over and over again by raiders and lose between 100k-600k each time without getting a dove.

 

[Redgar]

They are annoying, agree, but if you use them right, you're gonna love it and will not have any issues with resources.

Try anti-raiders build we discussed on forum a while ago. Every second raiders attack gets minimal of resources and at lower medals it even generated some wins.

https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexo...neral-discussion-aa/455597-anti-raiders-build

 

[dbukalski]

Yeah at 500 medala people dont care about losing medals so they raider spam then lose die.

 

[firedancer]

Upgrade your walls. Put Redoubts and Ballistas around your resources. Put caltrops nearby so that the move slower and let the Redoubts take them down.

 

[Eddie F1]

Exactly - defences are the key to preventing raiders taking all.

 

[dbukalski]

The key is making sure ur tc is a casualty of the raider spam. So either exposed tc or tc surrounded by ur resources

 

[maggiepie]

I agree with everyone else, base design is key- if you are being constantly raided and wiped, then it's possibly a problem with your base, not unit spamming. Maybe keep your TC a little closer to your rss (but not protected) so that it's easier for people to take it out. When I completely wipe out a base's rss I am at least considerate enough to try to take the TC as well so as to trigger a treaty.

My base does quite well with raider spam, even when I don't have a treaty and receive multiple attacks (but that's rare for me); I'm in early EA, 626 medal count, lvl 7 (some lvl 8) walls, GP defenses. I've been spammed by IA motorcycle raiders and they didn't take my full rss.

A better base is the best deterrent.

 

[Eddie F1]

From a full GP army onwards it's worth climbing medals, at 1626 any attack HAS to take the TC first or they lose ~39 medals, resources are secondary. 90% of attacks are just for the TC and quick victory, 3 PT's a day are guaranteed. The other 10% will steam-roller through your base.

 

[Redgar]

Anyone who asks for more units nerf is classified as vroom.

 

[maggiepie]

But I'm looking for quick, easy, rss at this point- won't the climb decrease the ease?

 

[JuDomines]

Please put me in the vroom category. Raiders are an insult for this strategy game. It requires absolutely no skill to play a 1min battle with raider spam a couple of wall breaker and a protect spell. I'd advocate to simply remove them.

 

[Redgar]

Be carefull what you're asking for without raiders you will be 5-starred much more often and you won't be able to catch up with folks who made a billion of gold using them.

I don't understand where frustration comes from... You may have a smart build to defend your most preciois resources from them, you may use them and loot back 100 times more than you lost and build walls.

May be you should ask devs for making 5-starring more efficient, so raiders will go away naturally? If you go for 5-starting, you use 1-4 raiders or none, so nerfed raiders may become a useless unit like they were at the beginning, but it looks like this is what you wish for )))