New Matchmaking and Glory Observations

JuDomines

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We are #4 fighting against #20. We can win 12 and lose 1,004. Wtf?!
 

Kaiser Shag

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After a few wars where we've lost much glory because of very unfair matchmaking (like 10 glory to win, 500 to loose but against very strong enemies ..), we now have a war 15 vs 15 in which we are a bit stronger than our opponents and where we can win 51 glory and loose 56 ..
 

Stan - Scotsguards

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the war matchmaking is garbage, 3 alliances getting war glory of 1 or 2, yes 1 or 2 only, when we can loss 654against a stronger team than us this is a disgrace roll it back or fix it properly
 

Tijsie

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I would like to recommend to freeze all glory points until the problems are solved...
 

S_How

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Our match is about as even as we get, both alliances with a tight spread of 3 ages and very close level wise. Glory is a bit odd with 99 to gain and 47 to lose for us. But, I don't really mind that if the match is fair. I hope they help fix the 'win 5 lose 1000' scenarios tho, unless it's a punishment for sandbagging or something else explainable.
 

Green Bird

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We were matched twice in a row with the same stronger alliance despite changing our lineup (swapping for weaker players) second time around. Yesterday we got matched with an alliance which looks much weaker - their top is level c150 vs our c180 and they have no atomic or even global players, it appears.
 

ELITE JAG

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TinSoldier, the matching system is actually producing serious mismatches. Overall, the main issue is that much higher teams are being matched with much lower teams in a quite disproportionate way. And on top of that, the disproportionate higher team is getting more glory points than the much lower team.
 

cclaerbo

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We have been having mixed results in glory points. 3 wars ago we were heavyweights compared to the team we played won like 400 only stood to lose 60. Then we were heavy underdogs but stood to win 600 lose 31 which is about right. Then now we have I'd say a very even match can win 450 lose 41. It's just inconsistent I'd say. But I think really the matches are very similar to what I've always seen. Out of 10 usually we get 3-4 very even matches and the others pretty much mismatches one way or the other
 

ELITE JAG

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"This is not a problem of sandbagging. It is an algorithmic problem -- there is no reasonable criterion under which this could look like a remotely fair match.

Fighting wars that are obviously unwinnable from the start is no fun. Please acknowledge your bug and fix it."


Exactly!!
 

athineos74

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this is boll shit if i may add, if we win we get 15 glory points and if we loose, we will loose 337 points where is the much making in this shit, it was much better before, in our last war we lost 276 points and if we have win we would have get 23 points how is that fair???? its not worth making a war anymore you people mess up the game for good
 

Festivus

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Our last two wars have been much better glory-wise. Before these we were typically getting 6, 8, 10 glory for wins but 600-700 for a loss, even with fairly evenly matched wars. That's clearly ridiculous.

Last two wars, though, have been much better. Current one is 51 for a win, 61 for a loss, in a fairly evenly matched war. The prior war was similarly balanced. That is how it should be IMHO. I hope it's truly fixed now...
 

athineos74

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i dont think this is fair for my team, please fix this problem, its not right if we loose to loose so many points and if we win we get shit for glory points.
 

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athineos74

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again an new war and again the same thing if we win we get like 19 glory points and if we loose we loose 309 glory points this is stupit
 

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Doc__is_my_username

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For the fourth war in a row, we have an absolutely unwinnable match.

There is no fun and no entertainment value in a series of matches where the end result is immediately obvious because the enemy is overwhelmingly stronger. The glory bug is annoying. Being set up, every war, with a guarantee that we will lose no matter how well we fight --> that is intolerable.

Please acknowledge the problem and announce your intended schedule for fixing it.
 

Tower

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Strange Glory... Started a war yesterday. 30x30 war

Viking Army glory: 24143 - No iron age
The Muslims glory: 23621 - two iron age
With the glory so similar you would expect a similar loss/win glory, actually it should be in our favor as we got no "bags".

But we can gain 39 and loose 591.

TinSoldier what is going on?
 

TinSoldier

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Today, we had a server update, which will re-calculate Glory more appropriately for the new Matchmaking rules. The newest Glory calculations will begin with the next World War you participate in.

Thank you for being patient as we looked through the last week's worth of war data!
 

LordJestix

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Today, we had a server update, which will re-calculate Glory more appropriately for the new Matchmaking rules. The newest Glory calculations will begin with the next World War you participate in.

Thank you for being patient as we looked through the last week's worth of war data!

What are the matchmaking rules, how is glory calculated?
 

Equal

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our second team had a match, where they lost 750 glory to an alliance with 3 irons at the bottom and 263 lvl aa as their no 1. it is recemmended to sandbag now lol.
 

Win_23

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Current war for us:

20v20 war
Glory gain: 60/67
Their top 10 lineup: 3 Atomic, 3 Global, 4 industrial. All complete bases.
Our top 10 lineup: 1 industrial, 9 enlightenment.

With half of their alliance stronger than us in every sense.. they managed to get perfect score 3 hours into the war.
Your new matchmaking solution is not working.
 
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