New Matchmaking and Glory Observations

[Mountainking]

Yes more transparency please. And when will those low accs be discarded for war calculation matchups? The fix is so simple really..

 

[athineos74]

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are we crazy or what realy, is this a fair game you say in battles? we start a new world war and our enemy has global age industrial age and from our side the most higher player is enlightenment age and you give us 300+ glory if we win and 200+ if we loose, and in the past 2 wars we manage by vicotory to get 50 glory points tops. this is boll shit

 

[Evningcome]

I still don't understand why is so hard to make a fair match ,and why it takes so long to figure out the correct formula .You try to match avarage weight between two teams and this is wrong and cause terrible matches (we all know why and this is even have a name -sandbagging) .Simply add two more components compare 1st member of the team VS 1st member of opposite team ,and last member of the team VS last member of the opposite team .Now you have 3 parameters 1. Avarage weight 2. First members of each team 3. Last members of each team .If all this 3 are almost equal you will get pretty fair match because everything in the middle will be also in some close values .Then it's up to you if you want to bring low level accounts in war (sandbags or active players) you will met an opponent with very similar team composition with same low level players in the end (sandbags or active players) .

 

[Equal]

welcome to nexon's world my friend...

 

[Empire]

In the last war, we stood to gain 7 glory and lose 687 glory. They out-averaged us. So, shouldn't we get more glory for fighting them? Or atleast lose less glory? Here's the opponent's lineup:


오늘의 유머

1 - AT Level 207 (손꾸락워리어)
2 - AT Level 206 (봐드레날린)
3 - GL Level 185 (iskra)
4 - AT Level 190 (빠른나무늘보)
5 - GL Level 186 (모글리only)
6 - GL Level 180 (kwak)
7 - GL Level 171 (pui)
8 - IA Level 166 (단무지)
9 - GL Level 164 (광개토)
10 - IA Level 158 (하늘손)
11 - EA Level 138 (밀리토)
12 - GP Level 74 (zenyata76)
13 - GP Level 78 (뚜쟁이)
14 - GP Level 75 (cjwchun)
15 - EA Level 49 (삼태기)


오늘의 유머

207
206
185
190
186
180
171
166
164
158
138
74
78
75
49

Average = 148.4666667


This was our lineup:


Dominion Elite

1 - GL Level 198 (Pirate Assassin)
2 - GL Level 178 (Adrift)
3 - AT Level 176 (Milion)
4 - IA Level 169 (Kaz)
5 - GL Level 171 (Sandra)
6 - IA Level 157 (Thunder)
7 - AT Level 164 (The Conquerer)
8 - IA Level 110 (Hugh Jass)
9 - IA Level 130 (Munchma Quchi)
10 - EA Level 122 (The Conquerer)
11 - EA Level 128 (Nick)
12 - IA Level 135 (Lightning)
13 - EA Level 108 (ADI)
14 - EA Level 88 (Empire III)
15 - MA a Level 58 (Beaulicious)


Dominion Elite

198
178
176
169
171
157
164
110
130
122
128
135
108
88
58

Average = 139.4666667

We lost the war. This was a lot of glory to lose in one war. I don't understand why we stood to lose so much glory. Our current war is no better: We gain 10 glory and stand to lose 684. Can you please shed some light on glory calculation, TinSoldier ?

 

[T4TiFooS]

Nothing changed after your change! still matchmaking and glory are in the worst states!

Why should we lose a hug amount of glory due to unfair matches? WHY?

If you are not able to handle matchmaking and fix that yet, but I believe you can solve glory problem!
​​​​Why this is so hard to fix Glory?

A temporary solution is divide the amount of lose glory by 10, the new result will be more fair!


You need to hire new programmers with higher skills!

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[Thebigtfish]

I couldn't agree more. We are matched up with a sandbagging cheater group Cerberus. We have faced many of these members before and they always sandbag and cheat and Nexon does nothing. They have 12 atomics to our 4, we can gain 6 glory and lose 1381. Yet we have zero chance. It's a complete joke.

 

[Kalmyre]

The matchmaking is a joke. Current war for my alliance we have 5 atomics, 5 global, 6 ind, 8 enlighten and one gunpowder vs 17 atomics, one global, 2 ind, 1 enlighten, 1 gunpowder and 3 medieval.

Complete mismatch as as there are no age rushers on either side.

 

[Mountainking]

I think mismatch occurs at wars run with more players... Running smaller wars seem to get more matched players in terms of age/development....Try running a 10v war and check it.

 

[athineos74]

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this is 10vs10 if you see in the photos i have send you will see there is no way in fucking hell to win or to even get close to win, is sure loss, this new shit of the game realy is not worth going to war any more, i dont know if they will ever fix there fuck up but i am very angry about it

 

[Flash's Mob]

Have you all thought about using a standard deviation calculation that can calculate not only age differentiation, but also level differentiation, in each alliance, and then using those values while matching? This should cut down on the # of sandbaggers vs. real warrior battles.

 

[Empire]

I think mismatch occurs at wars run with more players... Running smaller wars seem to get more matched players in terms of age/development....Try running a 10v war and check it.

I have been running 10v and 15v wars and find the same mismatch. In our current 15 member war, we lose 720 and gain 59 glory.

 

[TinSoldier]

It looks like you are strongly favored to win in the 15v15 war you're currently in. The Glory numbers seem to make sense with this context.

 

[Empire]

We usually win wars we are in But the glory payout for our wars has reduced significantly. In this context, I posted to say that the glory mismatch is the same for smaller wars.

 

[Ypergamias]

i didnt want to start a new topic and i write it here. What happened to united alliance?

 

[vincentdang4]

They are hanging out at Slave Lake alliance

 

[Festivus]

Did something change again? We had a few good matches - fairly balanced matches, reasonable glory win/loss, and then all of a sudden, it's back to the same garbage matches and ridiculous glory penalties. Current war is vs a sandbagging alliance:

Us - 3 AA, 3 GA, 7 IA, 4 EA, 3 GP
Them - 3 AA, 6 GA, 7 IA, 1 MA, 3 irons

Their GA and IA are max or close to max, while 2 of our AA are low level (rushed), and about half of our IA are low/rushed as well.

Real problem for this is the glory: 28 for a win, 837 for a loss. We're outmatched, although not by much (we may very well be able to win or at least tie), but we have a ridiculous glory penalty in the even t that we lose.

So, it seems nothing was actually fixed. I truly was hopeful last week after we had those balanced matches with reasonable glory payouts, and then we get this... Did you guys revert the change or something? Because this is the crap we've been dealing with for months.

 

[KayDee]

Now, this become more unbalance.

Our alliance glory is ~ 14000
And we are fighting with ~18000 glory alliance.

 

[Htmk5]

The matchmaking is not based on glory

 

[Master Contrail Program]

I hear ya. Since this ''fix'' we lost our first war for -267 glory. The five we've won? A combined 104. We're at 17, 900 glory so it's not like we don't have plenty of room to move up.

Our current war:

Opponents: 4 Atomics, 3 Global, 5 Industrial, 1 Enlightenment, 2 Gunpowder
Us: 1 Atomic, 2 Global, 5 Industrial, 5 Enlightenment, 2 Gunpowder

They win 776 We win 24.

If we lose I'm done with wars. I'm not interested in having to get 25-65 wins, as things stand, to make up for 2 losses. Not when this update did nothing to address the lame war loot, sandbagging, or apparently, matchmaking.