Pay To Win

[Lordwinman]

With all and everything one can buy in this game the game has lost its Competitive Purpose. Winning WW depends on buying Legendary artifacts and all those fancy TTS. The messages luring you to purchase has had a negative effect on playing the game. I remember a few years back when WWs were exciting and relying on the players skill with very few TTS available. The new events purchase pass has hit rock bottom for me enjoying the game anymore..At least the previous event system gave me a reason to complete the event knowing everyone has the same chance for the reward. Now purchasing the pass give you major advantages. The combination negative effect on me are I don’t watch daily videos,,don’t bother doing events,,and don’t spend a cent into this game anymore..WW are now for fun and not competition...Your comments. WN

 

[Bootney Lee Fonsworth]

Yes, I agree with everything you've said. Unfortunately, this is the direction they chose nearly 3 years ago when they introduced the stronghold. The money grubbing has really ramped up within the past year and within the last two months they've dispensed all pretense of it not being pay to win.

That said, it's still one of the best mobile games out there. Which really is more of an indictment of the industry as a whole than an endorsement of this game and its direction. There's no way I'd recommend this game to someone starting today who would only spend modestly. With the way things look they'd be unlikely to ever attain even bottom of the barrel war relevancy in industrial age before the plug is pulled.

However, as a four year vet with six accounts in a range of ages it's still a quality mobile time waster that I've met lots of interesting folks in. While I will engage in some shadenfreude when it inevitably shuts down I will miss my allies and even most of the folks on this forum, in a way. Even when we frequently disagree I like reading the opinions of the forum regulars here as we've dwindled from hundreds to a few dozen. Been an interesting shared experience.

Hopefully someone clones it, dials the pay to win back to back pre-2017 levels and provides a much better chat, user interface, stability, timely bug fixes, and probably most important, a genuine back-and-forth dialogue and transparency between players and devs.

If this game had the communications suite of a Lords Mobile or Game of War, while dialing back pay-to-win via the museum and troop cards to around one third of their current effectiveness we'd have a real winner. I'm not naive enough to hope for total elimination of pay-to-win aspects. This game went overboard with it from the jump though. If strongholds only allowed a max of two cards, if museum boosts topped out at the 30% of the university? Different, better game, imo.

Anyway, that's what I'd love to see. Would I love to see it from Nexon or BHG again? Probably not. When people tell you who they are, believe them. And they've certainly been telling us as loudly and blatantly as they can for quite some time. Fool me once, etcetera, etcetera....

 

[Lordwinman]

Thanks for your comment. I also have 6 accounts between me and my wife. I realize they will never go back to less pay to win items..The biggest problem they created with all those pop up pay to win messages and Windows is the new players will quickly see that its point less to invest any money in this game. Natural advancement is so slow and time consuming resulting in players losing interest in the game much faster than when we started..The top alliances players are stuck having to spend a lot of cash to maintain there position. While the mid top players like myself see there is no point getting to the top and gradually stop advancing any further leaving a big gap which will never get filled. This will be the end of Dominations if that happens...I still love the game and will continue playing with 2 acts a few mins here and there to collect my goods and do MPs battles. I war twice a week for now but that might change soon. W.N.

 

[albynos]

Another one complaining for nothing..thanks God it is not cheating related.
I win WW simply with a good alliance "Italian Fury", good cooperation and good strategy leader....no need to buy anything.
You just have too much free time to complain domas LOL

 

[albynos]

6 accounts....seriously? Reading your message I would suggest to have one single good account

 

[SomeRandomPlayer]

This is the pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Lordwinman]

@albynos......Your alliance at 19k glory did not buy anything...Yea sure I believe you..lol....And I am not complaining just stating facts..The reason I had 6 acts is to get the minimum of 10 player to be able to WW when I started my alliance..Now I play with 2..we are at 18k+ glory.. I know about good leadership and it is almost impossible to find good players these days..All are age jumpers in some way and don’t play the game as we do..That’s kind off what my message was all about. There will a lack of decent players which will a negative effect on this game..My alliance is Rolls Royce Ca.

 

[Theoneandonly]

Well, you are the advertiser for cheating and matrix glitch. That’s why you are not paying, your only skill is pressing the fc results and map editor button simultaneously.

 

[albynos]

I honestly don't know if they bought something or not...for sure joining the alliance is for free.
I issued a post about players and alliance "alliance 2.0". I agree it is not easy to get people within the alliance...have a look to the post and let me know your thoughts

 

[albynos]

SomeRandomPlayer, whatever...I don't need to convince you...just look my account "alby47" logged in april 2015 and lv.236 CWA..if I would buy something and be so low level I would probably have chose the wrong purchase!
domas I read the sentence 3 times but I still not get the point...

 

[Saruman the White]

I agree that the game has become too much P2W dependent but we must admit that the new event system is quite interesting as well.

 

[Lordwinman]

Guys....Just an update considering my post..A few of us in my alliance will be retiring from WWs and continue MPs upgrading at a snails pace..We no longer can compete against Digital Age Bases in WW. We were outmatched in the last few WWs. No point in continuing doing WWs since our top players will not go to Space Age and beyond.
The void of mid to top age players has begun...Your comments

 

[Lordwinman]

Actually there is a solution to this...Reduce big time the cost and time to upgrade anything. This would solve players which don’t want to spend anything to upgrade..The result would be a lot of us would be on the same playing field. I am sure a lot of people would not mind spending a few dollars on other things offered in the game if that happened...Your comments..

 

[Lordwinman]

One more thing.....Now I understand why there are so many cheaters in the game. Cheating is becoming more appealing. The funny part is Nexon is doing nothing about. That’s all I have to say about that...lol Forrest Gump..

 

[oddin]

my opinion is that you should not stop playing WW. Yes there are many flaws but it can still be fun if you don't really care about winning or losing. Just play!
On another note, what is your line up for WWs? Age distribution?

 

[Beastmaximus]

I have to agree that the direction is Pay2Win and this is a very bad direction.
Personally I think a one time charging is ok and speed up something for money is totally acceptable if the normal speed supports ending something without become bored by waiting. Development can/should be supported but not by paying 100Eur which I would not spend for any other game.
other games have something like gold pass for less than 5Eur for one month which you do not have to buy but you can ... trust me ... they will make enough money in that way too

 

[Lordwinman]

With the recent update lowering the the player level to go to Space age and Digital Age will just make things worse. Before you can get offensively and defensively strong you will never be able to acquire the resources to do all the necessary upgrades without investing a lot of playing time or money...You have just killed the Atomic and CWA players and replaced them with watered down Space and Digital age players. Reduce the build times drastically that would bring a balance to the game...

 

[Uhuru]

I stopped paying more than a year ago - as soon as BHG started explicitly shifting the game to p2w rails (aggressively extorting money). First it became annoying, secondly - the balance was broken, in the third - сheaters laugh... I also like everything else in our Alliance, and how those who write here completely ignore all of these promotions, events and offers.. BHG, you wasted your time!