So, I finally broke down...

[maggiepie]

It's actually built into the game that you cannot gain more resources by not raiding. You can say it is so, but the devs say it is not. By not raiding for 5 days you will essentially put yourself behind. You may manage a single upgrade, but by tweaking your raid strategy you could get further ahead. On the other hand- a 5 day 'break' might just make you feel less frazzled, which may just be worth it

 

[Cannibals]

I rushed to EA for the training blessing and guess what ... I can't find diamonds in the bases I'm matched against. So instead I'm using my GP troops to hit fat resource bases (200k or more of either resource) for whatever loot I can get and losing those battles, while also hitting every easy TC I can find along the way and having to skip most resources on those bases. I make sure to hit the storehouse especially when there is a chance for diamonds so I can get the occasional training blessing and battle full bore. I can usually raid about 1.5 million combined resources an hour this way and edge my medal total up too. Having a great alliance for donated allies helps a lot too ... look me up in USA Elite 3 if you want Djin.

 

[firedancer]

There is more than 1 way to play this game. You don't have to follow what other people do but then if you complained about your current situation, you should know there must be something wrong and something that needs to be improved.

I'm also the type who will upgrade everything first before I advance an Age. I don't rush. I also don't use Raiders and don't know how the others can get those 3M gold in 30 minutes. From the bases I see, the game from my perspective, I think that is just a mark-up value for bragging rights. But then that doesn't mean anyone is right or wrong.

You will continue to face the problems you mentioned, regardless of what Age you are. When you are in EA, you will feel the same. Training Blessing is overrated. I'm at IA now and I have been playing it my own way which I think contradicts to a lot of styles that people use here. On not so lucky days, I can loose between 1.3-1.8M of each resource simply by going to sleep. So all I can say is, get used to the game mechanics, understand more on how it works and if you really feel frustrated then change your style.

Remember... "If you always do what you do, you will always get what you get."

The choice of the 1 week peace treaty is yours regardless of whether others think it is worth it or not. You should instead think what you are going to do after the treaty expires. You can't be hiding behind 1 week treaties forever.

 

[Hunter Killer]

I also don't use Raiders and don't know how the others can get those 3M gold in 30 minutes.

That's a funny comment. I'll tell you how others get 3M gold in 30 minutes, they use raiders

French + Training blessing + Raiders. You can build 40 raiders in about 35 seconds on 3 barracks. Go in battle, take down the town center, let them run around a little bit if there's some easy resources they can get, then return home. 20 seconds spent in battle.

You can go in battle every minute so that's 30 battles on 30 minutes training blessing. At empire league level, you get 100k gold league bonus for winning a battle. 30 battles won means 3M gold just from league bonus. Then you can add up the casual loot you get from the battle itself (I looted up to 700k gold on one base).

Yes everyone can play the game the way they want. The end result is whether you need 5 hours to get to the same point as someone who will have played 1 hour, both in terms of resources available to you and in terms of medal count.

Not everyone wants to take the motorway, you can take the long scenic route if you want. You can enjoy the ride but then, you can't complain there are traffic lights that stop you, traffic jams that sets you back etc...

 

[firedancer]

Thanx for the detail explanation.

 

[dbukalski]

There is more than 1 way to play this game. You don't have to follow what other people do but then if you complained about your current situation, you should know there must be something wrong and something that needs to be improved.

I'm also the type who will upgrade everything first before I advance an Age. I don't rush. I also don't use Raiders and don't know how the others can get those 3M gold in 30 minutes. From the bases I see, the game from my perspective, I think that is just a mark-up value for bragging rights. But then that doesn't mean anyone is right or wrong.

You will continue to face the problems you mentioned, regardless of what Age you are. When you are in EA, you will feel the same. Training Blessing is overrated. I'm at IA now and I have been playing it my own way which I think contradicts to a lot of styles that people use here. On not so lucky days, I can loose between 1.3-1.8M of each resource simply by going to sleep. So all I can say is, get used to the game mechanics, understand more on how it works and if you really feel frustrated then change

Djinn dont do anything firedancer says. He says he upgrades everything and loses 1.5 mil gold just by going to sleep. I say focus on offense gold/hr and let the defense catch up when ur offense is maxed in industrial. The gold/hr = upgraded walls the only way it will get done. People think upgrading defense does more than it actually does. I say without great walls ull never have great defense. Ive lost 1 mil gold(just went through and counted) in 18 days(thats how far back my defense log tracks). And i keep 1.6mil+ in my gold storage all the time(that means 350k gold available to loot)........firedancer says training blessing is overrated but it literally, mathematically increases ur farming by 20x. So if u make 1 mil gold in a day...now u make 20 mil gold in a day. I made 60 mil gold yesterday......firedancer says he doesnt use raiders and feels 3mil gold per blessing is boosted for ego. Yesterday i had good run and made 7mil in one blessing(although 3.5 mil is probably average). So u can listen to someone like firedancer who does it all wrong and just assumes were making up our success. Or u can do what the successful playera do and not be frustrated

 

[Djinn]

I can't find anyone in my age that had more than 150k resources. I also always attack with full battle tactics and a full set of troops. I never battle without my tactics. Maybe that could be my issue. I attack maybe 3x a day.

 

[maggiepie]

I find lots of GP players with large amounts of rss (keep in mind I am lower medals, however, higher medal players appear to be saying the same thing). I rarely use tactics and don't need absolutely every unit either. This is true now in EA as it was true when I was in GP. In fact I use protect tactic more now in EA than I've used in any other age ever, and it's still not a lot. If you try to improve your strategy sans tactics (because realistically the majority of your raids you should be without them due to their build times) then you'll get much better at using just your troops to take down rss. Also, attacking 3x a day is not very much, that will certainly contribute to your lack of progress. Upping your raids will only get you more rss.

I'm also not sure how training blessing is overrated. It is extremely helpful, I especially find it so because I play more relaxed now. I also don't agree people are exaggerating their take that much- if I can make a million+ in a session barely giving a tiny rat's behind, I can only imagine that someone aggressively grinding away is absolutely cleaning up.

 

[CarlosSuarez]

I can't find anyone in my age that had more than 150k resources. I also always attack with full battle tactics and a full set of troops. I never battle without my tactics. Maybe that could be my issue. I attack maybe 3x a day.

you just have to use raiders, drop your medals until 200 and enjoy raiding 1M gold/hour without training blessing and any fucking tactic

 

[GroteKoning]

Maggiepie, I like your view on it so much, I might just join your alliance

 

[dbukalski]

I use one protect tactic every 1 hr because how long they take to rebuild. I use 1 maxed out mercenary deployment a day because i canr refill it faster than that really. I cant remember how often i attacked per hour before training blessing and a lot has changed since then. I used to run pure hc. But after training blessing 6+ per blessing, 12+ per hr is what u want

 

[Djinn]

you just have to use raiders, drop your medals until 200 and enjoy raiding 1M gold/hour without training blessing and any ****ing tactic

So go from 1200+ to 200 medals and farm people in the stone age? Suuuure

 

[maggiepie]

You'll be raiding people in Medieval, GP, and EA at that medal count- the raid system is built that way. After you hit GP you are restricted to one age up, down, or same age.

You may not be crazy about that particular strategy, but there are a lot of players (with some decent, some not so decent, bases) that intentionally drop that low to protect their huge stash of loot.

 

[CarlosSuarez]

So go from 1200+ to 200 medals and farm people in the stone age? Suuuure

dude why do you ask help in this forum and then you ignore all the advises we give you?

 

[Tickling]

Ha ha ha none of you guys got Djinn's joke. Obviously he didn't really buy a 5 day peace and expect his farms and caravans to produce enough for upgrades. Only a very great fool would do that (like unable to use a computer, drool on chin type of fool). He's trolling us! Next he'll tell us he relies on food and gold shipments! What a jokester....

 

[Djinn]

dude why do you ask help in this forum and then you ignore all the advises we give you?

Because going from 1200 to 200 is not the answer. If I want to play the game in easy mode, I'll do that, but lowering medals to have the game more enjoyable is not an option for me. Sorry.

 

[Djinn]

Ha ha ha none of you guys got Djinn's joke. Obviously he didn't really buy a 5 day peace and expect his farms and caravans to produce enough for upgrades. Only a very great fool would do that (like unable to use a computer, drool on chin type of fool). He's trolling us! Next he'll tell us he relies on food and gold shipments! What a jokester....

I'll jokester you. I rely on my gold shipments.

 

[maggiepie]

Because going from 1200 to 200 is not the answer. If I want to play the game in easy mode, I'll do that, but lowering medals to have the game more enjoyable is not an option for me. Sorry.

How is a 5 day peace treaty the answer? I'm not sure you truly understand the objective of this game, which revolves around raiding. If you are not effectively gaining enough rss to advance at a reasonable rate, then I hate to break it to you but, you are out of your league. 1200 medals is just beyond your skill level. You need to be more honest with yourself about your abilities.

 

[Porcupine]

Also I've been playing for a while, so please don't call me a noob. I just wanted to know a way to defend from the high end cheaters who love to farm me... And by lower my medals, well that's kind of retarded. I don't want to "cheat" to get what I want. And by lowering my medals to defend from weaker eneimies, well that's kind of dumb.

Listen to me Djinn, there is only two ways of playing this game:

1- Spend crowns to get started, spend more crowns.. spend even more crowns to keep anyone from attacking you for one week and maybe collect an upgrade for one farm and one caravan. Spend as much crowns as possible so you don't "cheat".
2- Figure out a way for you not to be dumb and spend that much crowns, maybe a little, but not that much.

Everyone is giving you a way, you can ignore them and play like you want. But i'm telling you, arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good i am with chess, the pigeon is going to knock over all pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it's victorious.

So unless the Devs decide to change the rules or make the game easier, eventually you're gonna find out we're right and that you've wasted all your time and money for nothing, instead of dwelling couple of weeks in low leagues and then skyrocketing to 2000+. Go ahead, carry on what you're doing. A wise man learns from his mistakes.. A smart man learns from other's.

 

[Porcupine]

How are you farming that much in empire 1??? I used to farm that much around 2400 but in above 2800 is a nightmare. Even 2600-2800 not that great. I play maybe 4 times max per blessing and everything else is "no opponent". I thought going to industrial will fix that but it didn't. What's the secret?