Suspicious walls / players

[Tower]

USA Dankness is currently on top of the GLORY leaderboard - but they have two players with suspicious walls....

Krieg lv 184
Shinji lv 189

I don't think it would hurt to look into these players....

 

[Sletteer1987]

I can tell you that I've reported them. Actually around the same time Global Age came out. At that time they were also part of another top alliance. Was told at that time that they were legit players. Their bases have even changed quite alot since then including those very high level walls

 

[Nb4powerup]

Max walls don't equal cheating but feel free to report them to support and they will review the accounts.

 

[Haci124]

Simple Calculation: "MAX WALLS + MAX GATE = MORE THAN 4 BILLION GOLD" or thousands of dollars. I regularly play that game since beginning and my achievement shows only 450 Million gold looted. So; As I understand, worlds richest men like playing DOMINATIONS and spend a lot. Good for Nexonm. I m sure that Nexon will be a billion dollar firm very soon .

 

[Nb4powerup]

It doesn't cost as much as you think. There are players who raid 24/7 as well.

 

[leetillu]

so those are players, not bots? ;-)
I have heard from a Chinese baby that never slept, but those are rare occasions, I don't think that all of them play dominations, right?

 

[Haci124]

Not only chinese, but also Aliens all around the universe. Hahaha.

 

[Equal]

so how much does it costs? mabye there is some special 'max walls' offer standing?? for one peace of max wall it is huge amount of gold, what to say about 120...

 

[aoe.kaskusempire]

Walls level seems difficult to be proven as cheating factors, because walls can be upgraded instantly, no need to waiting about several days. Well.. as nb4powerup said, there are many players raid 24/7. So this could be possible. BUT... how is about General levels?? The fact is.. I found there are so many players have 40 levels of General. Starting in level 11-20, each General takes 2 days to be upgraded and level 20-40 takes 3 days.

11-20 = 18 days
21-40 = 57 days

total is 75 days only for each General! so you can count by yourself how many days it takes for three or even all Generals. 450 days? seriously.. a year? How long the Global age has been released?

Speeding up will spend about 300 crowns for a day, they have to use more than 135.000 crowns to reach out all maxed General levels instantly. Pheewww... are you sure there are so many players bought that thousand of crowns only for Generals?

 

[Ravenlord]

You know, some people have been playing for ... wait for it ..... over a year !!! <shock, horror>

 

[Eddie F1]

About $9000 or around 16,000 raids @ 250k gold a time.

So not much at all in real money. 16,000 raids with a TB running is around 1000 hours, so doable for some, but need 2000 diamonds from somewhere. (not from storehouse shipments for sure).

 

[Eddie F1]

Did you include all the oil needed in your 135,000 crowns calculation?

 

[aoe.kaskusempire]

I deliberately did not, Eddie

Everyone knows by purchasing additional oil instantly definitely will spend more than I described above, but I was just debating about what was Nb4powerup saying about 'Max walls don't equal cheating' and 'There are players who raid 24/7 as well.' This means.. resource being collected in 'very short' time is not a cheating factor.

So if I'm asking to Nb4powerup then how is about Generals? I'm pretty sure he will tell me the same answer 'Max generals don't equal cheating' and 'There are players who raiding oil 24/7 as well.'

But I'm not sure he will be able to answer about the time required for each upgrade. It is very clear... having all maxed Generals level are almost impossible only in 2-3 months if did not cheating. I believe there NOT many players bought 135.000 crowns only for Generals.

 

[DynoBot]

Walls are the number 1 indicator of a cheater, I have been playing two years, currently have lv. 11 walls. I have completed the robber baron challenge and use to roll in dynasty 1 league, so I got the biggest bonus possible as well. It would easily take me another year to get lv. 12s. Hard to imagine someone playing more than me in the last 2 years, although I'm sure there are a few...not as many as we see (also had the joy of playing beside the top players and top alliances in the game during that time and they don't have lv. 13 walls). Real cash cannot buy walls unless your a millionaire.

 

[DynoBot]

Real money can upgrade generals though, if you get the oil, doesn't take many crowns to zip them if your a big spender.

 

[Eddie F1]

The distinguishing feature between somebody who has crowned max walls (either with $$ to Nexon or hack) is they have a full set, all 140 pieces done, raider players 99% of the time don't - some are max, others are a couple of levels below, their base is still under construction. It's very rare you see these kind.

 

[Glacier]

Wow, I'm busting my tail raiding and capping my walls and I am viewed as a cheat? For the love y'all should stop rushing your bases and maybe ya won't be so jealous. Like Nb4 stated, we raid 24/7 cept when war day comes.

 

[S_How]

Wow, I'm busting my tail raiding and capping my walls and I am viewed as a cheat? For the love y'all should stop rushing your bases and maybe ya won't be so jealous. Like Nb4 stated, we raid 24/7 cept when war day comes.

Your walls are between 8-9. The cost to do this is so small, compared to 10-14, its not even a footnote. No one with your level walls would be viewed as a possible cheat. To put it into context, it will cost more to go from 9 to 10 than it will from the entirety of 1-9. And of course 11-14 is more than 10 So if you think youre busting your tail now, just wait haha.

 

[S_How]

It doesn't cost as much as you think. There are players who raid 24/7 as well.

You do a lot of amazing things for the community and are probably the best CM we have ever had. But on this, I will respectfully disagree.

It costs an extremely large amount of money, even for the 24x7 raiders. For me, it would cost $9000, the math is below. I play this game an unhealthy amount most likely. Im nearly at the robber baron final star and have played since release. My walls are currently almost all 10. If I hit "next" on multiplayer 5x (im at 2800 medals for context), I will generally come across at least 2 bases with lv 13/14 walls. It is that rampant. For a game not on the iOS $$ charts, it is more than just suspicious to have this many people that have either spent $9000, or have done the 14,000 battles at 250k gold each battle to get their walls from 10-14. I'd have to look but I dont think many people even had 1/2 of that 14k number in the battle history you looked up for us a few weeks back, and there are some hard core players on this forum. Add in the final fact that half of these max wall bases, with people that have invested 24x7 playtime, or $9k, or a combination of this - have their traps popped and are barely maintained....sorry it just doesnt add up. I'd wager anything that 95% of these people are crown hackers, or beneficiaries of a negative crown glitch a long time ago.

What's worse though, is not really walls.....the walls can be beaten, but these same people probably have max university research, a huge disparity. These same people are the ones that can use full mercs, 3 gens and 6 tactics on every single battle to take regular players medals and loot and instantly have them back, etc. Walls are just the leading indicator. And like I said, not all are guilty.....but the overwhelming majority are.


Math snipped from another thread
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3.5 billion gold would require 389 times of going to the store and clicking the button to fill your gold to a max of 9 million. It shows me now it costs 3200 crowns to do that once. So, that means about 1,244,800 crowns. That comes out to about 89 separate purchases of 14,000 crowns for $100. Basically, it means that a person would have to spend $8900 for just taking their walls from 10-14. Unless Im missing something in my math, which Ive put below in case someone can help me spot mistakes.

Wall Lv	Cost/Seg	Seg		Ttl Gold
10	3000000	140		$ 420,000,000.00
11	4000000	140		$ 560,000,000.00
12	5000000	140		$ 700,000,000.00
13	6000000	140		$ 840,000,000.00
14	7000000	140		$ 980,000,000.00
	Ttl cost			$ 3,500,000,000.00
	times to fill gold to max	388.89
	3200 crowns per time to fill gold	1,244,444.44
	$100 packs of 14000 crowns	88.89

 

[Eddie F1]

Need 8 gates adding.

And wouldn't making 90 odd trips to the AppStore trigger some kind of response from Visa/Mastercard at some point?

I'm with you up at 2900 and continually nexting past max wall bases, and they are all complete, I don't think I've seen a base 'under construction' with a few custard walls and the rest at a lower level as is the case when raiding for gold - I have most 9's with some 10's and a solitary 11.