Tactical Helicopter Nerf

[MSS-Gaming]

Has anyone heard anything about the tactical helicopter nerf? It doesn't seem to have been implemented in the 5.8 update. I lost about 38,000 oil overnight with trap rearm blessing, tower blessing, and air defense blessing. 0 peace treatise in sight even though both my mills and markets were intentionally left full.

 

[melheor]

They never said it would be implemented in 5.8, if you read the notes, they clearly state that it would happen sometime AFTER 5.8. Honestly, I'm not happy about the nerf, it would hurt legitimate use of tactical helo. Instead I'd just prevent raiders from being able to be transported via it.

 

[yemen]

They haven't yet made it clear what the nerf will be exactly. I am pessimistic that they will excessively reduce it's hitpoints to the point that it dies to 1-2 SAMs, and so is lost every battle the way healing carts and spike traps were. But the optimistic side says they could still choose to prevent raiders from being carried in it.

 

[MSS-Gaming]

Thank you for correcting me on my misunderstanding. I had thought that it was going to be a part of this update. As I'm sure you know, collecting oil is the most difficult endeavor in the game, and it just hurts to lose so much progress overnight, time and time again. I just want the pain to stop. lol

 

[Festivus]

Redesign your base to deal with it and you won't get attacked as much. When I go oil hunting I still end up hitting "Next Match" more often than not, because people are protecting their bases now. Do the same and I might hit "Next Match" next time I come across yours...

Oh, and don't hold tons of oil. Duh...

 

[melheor]

The exact language they used is:

We’re going to be changing the Tactical Helicopter to make it less efficient at raiding Oil. We still want it to be a valuable troop, but we feel that the stats that it released with were a bit too strong.

The only stat relevant to raiding oil is HP, although they may also nerf its travel speed, which may be equally bad as it already barely keeps up with my troops.

EDIT: come to think of it, it may be the carrying capacity as well, you're right that they were very vague with the language.

 

[Juanjito]

Yo también tenia ese problema. Solución subi medallas a 1900 y ya no los veo. Suba de liga. Yo estoy contento con el helicóptero táctico.

 

[MSS-Gaming]

Redesign your base to deal with it and you won't get attacked as much. When I go oil hunting I still end up hitting "Next Match" more often than not, because people are protecting their bases now. Do the same and I might hit "Next Match" next time I come across yours...

Oh, and don't hold tons of oil. Duh...

I have actually redesigned my base to make it more difficult for tactical helicopters to reach my oil refinery, but no base design on the planet can beat 3 of those things fast enough. We are talking about 15k HP here. All you are actually saying is get good, which is meaningless and not in any way helpful. Also, I don't know if you've noticed this yet but there are quite a few upgrades in the atomic age that require 200k+ oil to complete so you have to hold on to a ton of oil, unless you expect to collect 200k+ oil in one sitting which is impossible.

 

[Festivus]

Um, no it's not impossible. I have gotten as much as 100k oil on a single training blessing (1 hour), it's very doable if you know what you're doing. My typical take is about 70k-80k per hour with TH raiding with training blessing - which are plentiful now with marco polo troop chests...

If you set your base up right you will not get attacked as much, but if you're not doing it right you will get attacked all night long. You can't stop all attacks, but you can deter most of them, or force them to use tactics (decoy or sab) to get your oil. And yes, you CAN take down 3 TH if you set things up correctly. Just understand how they behave - there will be an initial drop point, and then a rally that tries to avoid your AA, towers, castle, etc. Remember that defenders also attack TH, and that your TC with howitzers will drop them immediately. There ARE ways to do this.

My advice is to get yourself some TH yourself and join the party. Once you're on the attacking end you'll understand why we love them. FWIW I don't mind too much if they're nerfed a bit, I'll still use them and get nearly as much oil. And many here will still complain it's not enough...

 

[Manifesto]

My typical take is about 70k-80k per hour with TH raiding with training blessing.

So you're the one stealing my oil, ba$tard!

 

[Quali]

So you're the one stealing my oil, ba$tard!

Missile silos don't pay for themselves....

 

[Festivus]

Ain't that the truth. Just advanced my main account's silo to lvl 2 and started building my global alt's lvl 1 silo... That's a lot of oil to steal

 

[Manifesto]

If it's alright with you I might return the favour, not long to go for my own silo!

 

[Quang t legend]

The bad of TH is it forced every MP base become a specialize anti TH base. Not much chance to experience new idea and so boring!

 

[Gargantuar]

Actually now that i think of it , leave TH as it is.

ell , even three field howwies coming out of TC shoot at it. My earlier understanding was that it would be invincible. But there are just too many things shooting at it if not careful. Any nerfing will make it useless.

And yes practically , after having the TH for last 20 days , i have trained all TH + raiders army hardly 2-3 days. It goes to say that TH is not the be all and end all story for oil stealing.

 

[Kaiser Shag]

I will take full advantage of TH to farm the oil needed to upgrade the silo to lvl 3 before they nerf it

 

[NickDW5]

As far as I can see it got nerfed a little.. it now can drop 12 troopspace (4 raiders) instead of 15 troopspace before 5.8.

 

[KniferX]

I have actually redesigned my base to make it more difficult for tactical helicopters to reach my oil refinery, but no base design on the planet can beat 3 of those things fast enough. We are talking about 15k HP here. All you are actually saying is get good, which is meaningless and not in any way helpful. Also, I don't know if you've noticed this yet but there are quite a few upgrades in the atomic age that require 200k+ oil to complete so you have to hold on to a ton of oil, unless you expect to collect 200k+ oil in one sitting which is impossible.

There is a solution for your problem, brought to you by the #uselessdock:
- Upgrade dock until you get the 12h or 24h peace treaty expeditions
- Get a peace treaty from there
- Raid oil like mad
- If you didn't collect enough oil, pop a peace treaty and continue tomorrow.

No TH grief ever again basically.

 

[MSS-Gaming]

There is a solution for your problem, brought to you by the #uselessdock:
- Upgrade dock until you get the 12h or 24h peace treaty expeditions
- Get a peace treaty from there
- Raid oil like mad
- If you didn't collect enough oil, pop a peace treaty and continue tomorrow.

No TH grief ever again basically.

This is actually a very good suggestion, although a permanent balance fix for TH would be more desirable.

 

[KniferX]

This is actually a very good suggestion, although a permanent balance fix for TH would be more desirable.

Well until it gets nerfed, it will have to do .