The most efficient way to use crowns ?

Meher

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Is it better to use crowns to speed up troop training or to finish an upgrade already in progress or to fulfil the required ressources to upgrade something ?

Which one do you think will cost less crowns and give a better value ?
 

Bau Wau

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I think it is very important to only use crowns on resources. The prices are much less. I am not a math ace, but I will try.

For example, to fill my storage with 5,954,630 gold costs 2,221 crowns. This means each crown is worth roughly 2681 gold.

I have 1 day, 12 hours left on my spike trap with one guy working (it might be 1 day, 12 hours, 59 minutes but it is impossible to know). It costs 376 crowns to finish instantly. This means an hour of reduced build time is worth 10.4 crowns.

So, this would mean that an hour of reduced time is worth 28,002 gold roughly.

It is important to note that the cost of speeding up appears to be strictly set. For example, 4 guys working on a Market with 36 hours left costs the same as one guy working on a spike trap with 36 hours left. Not four times as much.

To me, it's much easier to wait an hour than to lose 28K resources. So it's much more efficient to use the crowns only to pay for resources, never to speed up the projects.

Now, I have no idea about the costs for speeding up non-building things. Clearly, generals cost less than 10.4 crowns per hour and soldiers may cost more. I am also not sure about potions and research/blacksmith.

The most important takeaway is that when you see the "instant cost" most of that cost is likely to be for the time as opposed to the resources.

I hope that helps.
 

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Or... troop building.

I can rebuild a bunch of troops for 24-30 crowns. And raid a guy for 100k gold. So I get back 3,333 gold per crown. Seems like a good return?
 

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thx for the feedback
but arent 6 soldiers usually better than 1 cavalry? thats what ive been wondeirng about tbh
Yeah, i am aware of the fact that there is no nation with a huge (but a slightly) advantage compared to others, no worries.

my apologies for spamming this thread with a totally unrelated topic.
 

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I would say, for now, keep the crowns, unless you plan on buying some more later on. Because the developers will eventually add features to allow you to change wonders or even nations, i bet they gonna cost some hefty crowns.
 

Bau Wau

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If anyone has different number for the gold/time/crowns conversions I would be really interested. It would be great to have an actual value.
 

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If we are talking about using them for speeding up buildings, which is my main use for it personally... There are 2 things which I think are the best value. The first one is the really long upgrade times. For instance, a 1 day one is 300 I think. But a 4 day upgrade like classical upgrade is only 700. Pretty good value if it's worth speeding up for you at the time. The other is if I am about to sleep or work and I have one with up to 2 hours left. If it's gonna cost you 30 gems to speed up, but it allows you to set an upgrade going and knock 8 hours off the time, that's the best value I think.
 

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I think it depends on your activity level and stage of the game too. If we are talking about trying to advance in the game as fast as possible... If you have a lot of time to loot and you use good tactics, there is no reason why you should have to pay crowns for resources until at least the medieval age. I'm in medieval age now so can't speak for GP and enlightenment age. But I have started to keep 1 cheap upgrade, 1 food upgrade and 1 coin one going at a time now. This allows me to raid enough to keep my builders busy at the moment
 

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thx for the feedback but arent 6 soldiers usually better than 1 cavalry? thats what ive been wondeirng about tbh Yeah, i am aware of the fact that there is no nation with a huge (but a slightly) advantage compared to others, no worries. my apologies for spamming this thread with a totally unrelated topic.
I would say in general circumstances, yes. But having one cavalry tank can really help you if used right. It's better to miss out on 6 foot troops but have all of your troops survive past the catapult, than getting 30 foot troops killed by a catapult or redoubt
 

Bau Wau

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Again, one day of time reduction on ANY building (one that has one worker or one that has six) costs about 670000 resources. In most cases, I would rather be able to get 670,000 gold to seal an upgrade cost without it being able to be stolen than finish a caltrops a day earlier. But that's how i see the value.
 

Meher

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Bau Wau, it's actually not a fixed price for the crowns. For both getting ressources or time reduction.

Ressources:

For example now I want to upgrade a catapult and build a house.
I'm missing 412 086 gold to upgrade the catapult, it demands 335 crowns. Which means each crown has a value of 1 230 gold.
I'm missing 2 712 086 gold to build the house, it demands 1 221 crowns. So each crown has a value of 2 221 gold.

Time Reduction:

Speed up Upgrades:
One day instant finish: 300 crowns. An hour equals 12.5 crowns.
Two days instant finish: 300 crows. An hour equals 6.25 crowns.
4 Days instant finish: 600 crowns. Ah hour equals 6.25 crowns.

Speed up Infantry creation :
12 crowns for 30 minutes.
An hour equals 24 crowns.
2 hours, equals 36 (x1.5).
Three hours 48 (x1.33).
Four hours 60 (x1.25).

Conclusion:
The more something is costly or the more it requires time, the more efficient the use of crowns will be.

If anyone can verify these numbers so we can get how the use of crowns are measured.
 

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I just hit the Medieval age and my crown use has shifted from quick buying a whole army to saving up to get the last 100k of resources on buildings that need 500k+.

This way I find myself better able to mitigate losses due to raids and make better use of my time rather than chasing that last little bit i need.
 

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So it depends on what is your limiting factor. If you spend an hour a day playing the game it is more worth buying resources. But if all your builders are all busy and you have a spare 3 hours to play the game it might be worth speeding up something by 2 days so that you can get something else building. Those 300 crowns wouldn't get you your 670k but it will save you 2 days of waiting for 4 builders. If you're upgrading your age the crowns could be worth it if you already have all your offence built and a decent amount of defence. Also, might be worth saving yourself a day on upgrading samurais or vandals if you use the foot + archer raiding strat, and if you have all day to loot, as it can boost your looting ability massively in some cases
 
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Duncan Vann

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Normally I save crowns like x0pht said.

But when you've a huge pile of gold with 30k to go and 5 minutes left to play, then rushing troops can save the day. A lot more efficient than buying the stack of gold I needed earlier.
 

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You should use crowns to help you manage your resources, first of all. If you have a lot of resources, but no workers... It's smart to speed up an hour or two. If you gather big summ in limited amount of time, you may spend for blessings to save the army, army speed ups, tactics, etc. If you just need to leave the game, you may spend crowns to buy some resources to complete a big spend. i think efficiency is somewhere here ;)
 

Meher

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So it depends on what is your limiting factor. If you spend an hour a day playing the game it is more worth buying resources. But if all your builders are all busy and you have a spare 3 hours to play the game it might be worth speeding up something by 2 days so that you can get something else building.

Yes, I'm currently trying to play for a maximum of 1 hour/day and using the crowns to buy the missing ressources for an upgrade seem the best option. But the upgrades are really expensive, thus they require a bigger amount of crowns. It's like spending 10€ daily to complete the missing ressources for just ONE upgrade. It's too much ! How is it even possible to progress if I play 1 hour per day !?
 
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