Top Medals Game is Unplayable

[Cannibals]

Some of you know that Cannibals is a secondary game account for me, and that my main game account is Moonies. I've been making a focused effort to get into the top medal ranks since 9/24, but hadn't been able to make progress much past 3300 due to my peace treaties failing overnight. I had the time and opportunity to finally reach my goal of 3600 medals Dynasty 1 league today, but only through a marathon 37-hour playing session so as to avoid the broken peace treaties issue. After hitting that goal, I logged to obtain a treaty and hoped for the best. Here is what happened so far:

Start: 3,600 medals

8h treaty for -6 medals, lasted 14m
8h treaty for -15 medals, lasted 1h57m
16h treaty for -24 medals, lasted 11m
16h treaty for -34 medals, lated 1h8m
8h treaty for -7 medals, lasted 2h11m
8h treaty for -15 medals, lasted 2h45m
16h treaty for -27 medals, lasted 9h30m
16h treaty for -31 medals, lasted 16h
16h treaty for -35 medals

Final: 3,406 medals

This breaking peace treaty issue makes the top medals game simply unplayable except for those who "somehow" arrange to stay logged in all the time. I'll keep this updated so we can all see where this goes, but other than that I am out of the race.

 

[GailWho]

But what an awesome achievement just getting to where you are even with the PT issue... Kudos!

 

[umyo_]

Well Nexon/BHG??!! not even a sorry or we are working on it, NOTHING!!! This is one of your top players here and still you guys just don't give a crap do you? Did you hear him? 37 hour playing marathon for nothing. What are you going to do? What is this forum even for? To make fake accounts to say good things about your broken game! Is that the only reason you have a forum? When are you guys going to actually give a crap and actually say hey man we are very sorry for this BS that is happening and that we just cant figure it out. We just don't know what to do. We are way over our heads and wasted alot of your time with a game that is pointless in the long run. Man up Nexon/BHG!!!! Are you not embarrassed? Hasn't this gone on long enough. You are wasting alot of peoples valuable time. You are tricking people into thinking this is a game that wil get your mind off of the frustrations in the world instead you are just adding more and that isn't right guys. This guy just wasted 37 hours of his time on you guys and you let him down. And what do you have to say? Absolutely nothing... You guys should be proud of yourself's for ripping people off with there money and there time.

 

[Hunter Killer]

Yes this "bug" is just an embarrassment for a game like this, which relies on peace treaties to know who can be attacked or not. If I was owning the company, I wouldn't let my developers sleep until they can fix it.

I have had 7 broken peace treaties since I crossed 3000 medals. I've made a post complaining that even crown paid peace treaties broke and that was clearly a fraud i.e. paying for a service and not receiving it. I got temporarily banned from the forum for discussing compensation schemes on the forum.

Instead of trying to silence dedicated players who still try to put up with all the crap, you should thank them for beta testing your game. I won't go into the details of compensation otherwise I'll get banned again, but it's peanuts compared to what some players got and a joke compared to all the time and efforts people put in achieving these goals.

You may as well deactivate the leaderboard until you fix this issue, it is utterly useless and doesn't reflect the reality of the ranking.

 

[USA Elite Will]

This is Moonies?!?!?! All this time I had no idea lol Wow!

 

[ivan.]

Don't worry Mods, I got this. Here you go:

"We know obtaining these resources of medals are very hard to achieve within the game, we understand why and how you feel this way. Unfortunately, we have our hands tied in providing you with these compensations. We know it sounds unfair that we're not able to grant your request, but it would be fair to other players who were denied with their request."

Lol.. but in all seriousness it's pretty ridiculous that this problem is never acknowledged or addressed every time it's brought up in the forums. Nor is it listed on the Known Issues thread despite how prevalent it is. All this silence makes you really wonder why it's being slept under the rug.... Perhaps it's done deliberately to keep medal counts in check or maybe to ease up the 'no opponents found' problem....#tinfoilhat.

Either way, the fact that this is an problem for both defense and purchased peace treaties is disgraceful and completely undermines the competitive spirit of this game.

 

[leoelephant]

I am just guessing that maybe the early expired peace treaty is the only solution for the other top player's issue: they can not find opponents.

I am at 1400+ and I have never met broken peace treaty. In the top rank, as the opponents pool is so small that the match making logic may still queue accounts in peace treaty at the end of available opponents list. They wont be chosen when there are enough candidates, but they will be chosen if availability of opponents is none.

It maybe eased when more people reaching high medal. But for now, maybe it is necessary to bend to either one of the two evils: force peace treaty expired or keep telling player there is no opponents.

I am also thinking maybe because the same reason, the current +1/-39 medal system exists. It helps to create a higher density in available opponent pool.

All these are guessing. Only BHG knows as they can mine data collected from server.

 

[Eddie F1]

4 hours and 20 minutes after the original post, Cannibals is down to 3472 medals.

How does PrincessWarrior of some Vietnamese alliance stay No 1 for so long I wonder? (Rhetorical question, no answer needed)

 

[acied]

You are funny indeed Eddie ...!

 

[GroteKoning]

I'm in the same alliance as Moonies. I've been watching him grinding non stop for days now!

This is so screwed up I don't have words.

Mods, at least respond to this. It is the right thing to do.

Oh, and please do me a favour. Copy Moonie's account. Now play that for a week while staying on the leaderboard. Use your forum name, so that we can keep track. I don't even mind if you use free crowns and max all your offence and defence. Just stay on the leaderboard.

If you can manage that, I'll hang around a little more. If not, it does not make sense anymore.

 

[dbukalski]

We lost iron angel i think well be talking to ourselves for a while again. He will show up in a month to ban some people though

 

[molfas]

BHG obviously introduced breakable peace treaties to avoid dedicated players run away in the leaderboard. Let's face it, we have that horrible force close exploit so nobody wins a defence in the top ranks. If force close was fixed many clumsy workarounds like broken peace treaties and the current medal system would not be needed.
I have come to the conclusion that fixing force close the right way is technically impossible for BHG (wrong game architecture!?) which makes me kind of sad because I really like the game.

 

[Eddie F1]

but only through a marathon 37-hour playing session.

You were doing the 'Build 35 tactics in 36 hours' Timed Quest, right?

 

[Aurelius...]

That's brutal. I'm sorry to hear it.

I've had the same problem on a lesser scale. Complained enough to get 300 crowns. I told them it was an insult. For you, that would be 8.11 crowns/hour. So they may be willing to compensate you at about $0.08/hr for your time.

For game errors, they should replace what was lost. Suggesting that this would be unfair because they didn't do the same thing for others is a specious argument.

 

[Nathan Win]

Wow I didn't know this is an issue. I never have this problem with my PT.

 

[Tickling]

Wow I didn't know this is an issue. I never have this problem with my PT.

It's a problem at the higher medal ranges. It started being an issue for me once I hit 2600 medals.

One poster here had a theory that people were being pulled out of Peace Treaty because of the no opponent found issue. I doubt that is the case as it seems that most attacks that come through an active PT are players in lower medal ranges where opponents aren't a problem. From my experience anyway.

 

[dbukalski]

Were seeing the opposite. Broken pt starts to happen above 3100 medals. So if ur saying low medal players are seeing same thing what medal range we talking?

 

[Tickling]

I started getting broken PTs at 2600 medals. More often then not, the players who broke through the PT would be below me >2400 medals.

I would grab some screenshots but that would require reinstalling the game..

 

[MadFury]

I feel for you cannibals. Case in point why our alliance as a whole agreed long ago to play hard enough to stay competitive. But never to the point where it becomes pointless. This issue should have been fixed months ago. It should be priority #1 next to a new medal system.

 

[dbukalski]

I started getting broken PTs at 2600 medals. More often then not, the players who broke through the PT would be below me >2400 medals.

I would grab some screenshots but that would require reinstalling the game..

2600 is pretty low. Thats weird