Understanding the Math on Ranged Infantry - Korean v. Chinese

[War Phoenix - David]

Internally, we've been having a discussion on Korean v. Chinese shooters. Mainly, DPS. I've read forums with real world tests, and others comparing with British but I haven't found anything yet with real hard numbers. Mostly opinions.

Enlightenment Age:

	DPS v. Infantry	DPS Regular	HP
Korean	176	44	252
Chinese	152	38	252
Regular Ranged Infantry	124	31

*Source http://dominations.wikia.com/wiki/Ranged_Infantry

1. I've read that the Chinese statistics are not inclusive of the 2x speed. Does this number include the bonus of 2x speed?
1.2 If the DPS includes 2x speed, 2x speed compared to what? If regular ranged infantry shoot 124 DPS then twice as fast would be 248 DPS v. Infantry.
2. Can someone give hard numbers explaining a point on Korean v. Chinese? Also, if you could site any sources for your info as you gather it.

I'm intentionally leaving out British b/c the range throws a whole new confound into the equation. This is a strict comparison between two ranged infantry units with bonuses of DPS.

Other threads addressing similar info:
https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexon...58-archer-test
https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexon...-archers/page2
https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexon...chinese-nation
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dominations...nged_infantry/

Quotes:
Gambrinus
"How is the "faster" firing ability suppose to be worth a damn when they have 60% the attack dmg of normal ranged?" Explain? Zodiac ​
"Chinese have the weakest ranged unique units, the Korean unique has the highest dps, and the British +1" ... Why?
"I would like to prepose a test for the level 6 ranged infantry unit below to compare the nations units in a controlled manner"... Any final conclusions?
str1nger

 

[WarrenX148]

I have thought a bit about this and done a few tests and here is what I have found regarding Chinese shooters.

DPS is just that, damage per second. If something attacks 10 times a second for 10 damage or once per second for 100, that is still 100 DPS. Chinese ranged, as one of your quotes states, attacks at double speed for 60% of normal power, making the DPS 120% of a regular ranged. The ONLY benefit to this as opposed to just having them 20% stronger is that once they have slain their target, they are twice as fast to retarget to something else, making them ever so slightly more efficient. I wouldn't say this makes them better than the Koreans or the British, but it's something to consider.

 

[War Phoenix - David]

Ok. This is a good secondary question but why would retargeting be the same speed? Is that even a variable? I've never run across "retargeting speed" Also... If there are 4 troops from a garrison, they would be slaughtered so fast that I'm not sure "retargeting" vs a "one hit kill" type DPS number is really all that significant.

Either way, this is interesting but I'd like to keep focused on the original question on explaining the math in the numbers.
Are you saying that the base damage is significantly less than normal troops for Chinese? Thus, 2x is a factor of a much lower base damage value than a normal ranged infantry unit?

 

[WarrenX148]

Yes, Chinese ranged base damage is only 60% of the value of a normal ranged unit. However, since they attack twice as fast, they effectively have 120% of the DPS of a normal ranged.

 

[maggiepie]

I have played as Chinese.

1. The dps listed is inclusive of the 2x speed. That is to say 2 hits from an EA Chinese archer nets 152 dps. (It is damage per second, and per second this unit hits twice for a total of 152 damage).

1.2. It is twice the speed of all other archer units. That is, instead of hitting once in a second, they hit twice. Thus, the damage comparison per a single hit to a regular archer unit is: 152 / 2 = 76 / 124 * 100 = 61%. Each hit from a Chinese archer is 61% the strength of a regular units' hit.

2. Koreans are far more powerful, since one hit off a Korean archer is 176 dps, whereas one hit off of a Chinese archer is 76 dps (43% of the damage Korean unit inflicts).

Having played the Chinese I can confidently say their speediness has absolutely no value compared the the punch that a Korean unit packs.

 

[Ravenlord]

You only need to be attacked by both Chinese and Korean to see this is true.

 

[maggiepie]

If you agree it is true, Ravenlord, then like the post

 

[Ravenlord]

Ok - since you ordered so nicely!!

 

[Vissor]

British all the way....

 

[maggiepie]

Lol, I was only joshing- but thanks for the like

Hmmm- maybe I should politely 'order' more likes from now on and maybe one day I'll have a few more bars too

 

[War Phoenix - David]

This is awesome. Really great info maggiepie

 

[Merkaba]

Thank you for starting this post and clearing this up. I am Korean EA and have been having the same question lately.

 

[maggiepie]

Glad I could help