Update 6.5 gave significant advantage to Global Age over Atomic Age.

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Domination Bonus changed the bonus resources gained from multiplayer and World War battles introduced with 6.5 Strategy & Conquest update.

Since there is no level requirement for upgrading to Atomic age, several players have upgraded to Atomic age without upgrading much of their walls and defense buildings while the Level 220 minimum requirement for upgrading to Cold war age means players have to upgrade their bases significantly.

This allows Global age players to come across several weaker Atomic age bases with/without Missile Silo and secure 5-star and also obtain the coveted 6000 Oil as Domination bonus more easily without losing all the troops in the process.

While Atomic age players rarely come across weak Cold War age bases and securing 5-star and getting the 7200 Oil as Domination bonus is almost difficult. This means Atomic age players are stuck attacking other Atomic age(2400)/Global age(720) players most of the time.

Since Atomic age has relatively more Oil related upgrades, it makes sense the Oil rewards from Domination bonus for Atomic age players should be atleast comparable if not better.

My Solution- Atomic Age players should receive a 1100-1200 Oil as 5-star Domination Bonus from Global age(720 Oil) bases and 3600-4000 Oil as 5-star Domination Bonus from other Atomic Age bases(2400 Oil).

*Like and reply to my thread if you agree with my suggestion and also leave replies if you have better suggestions or disagree.
 
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So you want a low war weight, a very strong army but you also want to be better rewarded in multiplayer for rushing ages and skipping defence/resource. Sounds good to me.
 

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So you want a low war weight, a very strong army but you also want to be better rewarded in multiplayer for rushing ages and skipping defence/resource. Sounds good to me.

Global age receive 6000 Oil as 5-star Domination bonus from weaker Atomic age bases allowing them to upgrade Generals and Planes much faster and constantly while players who have upgraded to Atomic Age at lower level cannot do so against Cold War age bases without losing a significant amount of troops in the process.

I am only asking that Atomic age players should receive better Oil rewards for securing 5-star against other Atomic age bases due to the significantly higher minimum level requirement for upgrading to Cold war age.
 
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dont worry. this update made atomics much stronger on both attack and defense so its fair again.
 

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Moreover, it’s very easy for Global players to find poorly constructed Industrial bases that aren’t really Industrial — more like a couple defences ranging from Stone to Medieval or maybe a few Gunpowder. These bases hardly give an oil reward, but in terms of loot, it’s easy to regularly get 200-300k+ per attack, and these are bases you could beat in your sleep, even after the rebalance. The max level for IA is only 80, so a plethora of terrible, rushed bases are there.
 

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I'm industrial and some wise other players ensured me never to move on to the next age before you've done your oil upgrades. Done all industrial oil research in a few months and only need oil for my generals now. It was easy to get the oil that also allowed me to do lot's of wals. Those global age players with medieval defenses helped me a lot. Think it's fair that the once that do there upgrades (atleast the important) get a advantage.
Think everything is working out just fine for me.
 

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I hear you Gears. Adding 1-2k oil to Atomic wins isn't unreasonable but Global wins shouldn't really be increased. The incentive should be to punch above your weight. Spare a thought for us poor CW players. :D
Atomic is a bit of a no-man's-land at the moment. Stick it out until CW if you can.
 

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There’s no advantage here but I would label it more an incentive. These players are just a nice perk when it comes to raiding but that was their choice not to upgrade certain buildings or walls. I’ve come across cwa bases that don’t even have a silo and those are just the same players as you described and I’m always glad to take their rss and those frags.

What you’re describing has always been the case when a person jumps to next age asap but eventually it’ll even itself out as they begin to catch up on the defensive side. Of course the added oil is just a huge reason for many people to attack because even in failure you can still come out on top with oil. A lot of people upgrade ages knowing that there’s better units/buildings/def and such waiting but honestly a lot of people don’t think about the fact that they will get attacked more. Usually they only worry about ages higher than their base but really one should think about everyone attacking.
 

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That's a nice chunk of oil, however the irony is that they dont have many uses for oil outside of defensive building. Global has 1 heavy tank whereas atomic has 2 upgrades, same amount of plane upgrades but atomic has amelia and now a new airstrip. Also atomic gets the very accessible bazooka upgrades from saladin which require oil. I regret not upgrading my generals more in global, but to me, once you get the basic things out of the way the incentive to move to atomic is too high. Even more so now that atomic has the monopoly on attacking global bases :p
 

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What you’re describing has always been the case when a person jumps to next age asap but eventually it’ll even itself out as they begin to catch up on the defensive side. Of course the added oil is just a huge reason for many people to attack because even in failure you can still come out on top with oil.
Yes, the Domination bonus provides an incentive for attacking bases at higher age than you. This has always been the case for every age but only difference now is that there is a higher minimum level requirement of Level 220 to upgrade to Cold war age so you are rarely going to come across Cold war age bases without significant wall and defense upgrades.

Just like how other ages before Atomic age would want to attack Higher ages and secure maximum amount of stars for the added Domination Bonus, I too want to attack other Cold war age players without losing most of my troops in the attack but I avoid it because it is not worth losing 3k-4k Oil and fews hours in troop/planes/tactics training after losing all the troops attacking and securing only 1-star or 2-star against a level 250+ Cold war age bases with 6k-7k Oil.

Hence I was asking the Domination bonus be increased for securing 5-star against other Atomic Age and Global age bases to balance for the higher minimum level upgrade requirement Cold war age.
 

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I hear you Gears. Adding 1-2k oil to Atomic wins isn't unreasonable but Global wins shouldn't really be increased. The incentive should be to punch above your weight. Spare a thought for us poor CW players. :D
Atomic is a bit of a no-man's-land at the moment. Stick it out until CW if you can.

Yes, Atomic age has indeed became a no-man's-land due to the 6.5 Strategy & Conquest update and even more so with the latest Space Age release as Global age bases will be closed for attacks from Cold war age player while Atomic age players get opened for attacks from new Space Age players.

Since there are no level 170-180 Cold war age bases for comparatively easier attacks while there are several level 160-170 Atomic age bases, my suggestion was to increase the amount of Oil you receive as Domination bonus from attacking other Atomic/Global age players to balance it out .

Sticking it out till CW is the only option available.
 

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@BHG_Muet Atomic age players should receive better Oil rewards as part of Domination Bonus for attacking other Atomic/Global age bases because Atomic age players will never come across level 170-180 Cold war age bases unlike say Global age players who get incentives for attacking weaker Level 160 Atomic age bases.
 

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Atomic having eight planes vs global 4 is such a huge difference that it doesn't matter what happens in global, moving up is going to be the right choice.
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Atomic having eight planes vs global 4 is such a huge difference that it doesn't matter what happens in global, moving up is going to be the right choice.
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I just want slight increase in Domination bonus available from attacking other Atomic Age bases because Atomic age players dont come across level 170-180 Cold war age bases unlike say Global age players who receive 6000 Oil as domination bonus from attacking level 160 Atomic age bases.

Why there are no level 170 Cold war age bases? Because of Higher minimum level requirement of level 220 to upgrade to Cold War age.

Read my original post again and other replies from me in this thread. I want to complete Oil related upgrade at the same or higher rate than Global age players can do attacking weaker Atomic age players. (General upgrades and University researches which require quite a significant amount of Oil.)

Additional planes available after update doesn't fix this issue of lower amount of Oil rewarded as Domination bonus for attacking weaker Atomic Age bases.
 
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yemen

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It doesn't fix it. But global bases with 8 planes will be so easy it won't matter.
 

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The incentive from Nexon is about attacking higher ages. The idea being you use crowns to buy troops to do that.
Nexon won't give you more bonuses for attacking same age bases. Never going to happen.
And hopefully 8 planes will help you attack CW bases for the higher bonus.
 
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