Wall Math

[serenity4jwr]

I'm Gunpowder Age; I have 2 levels of upgrades to my third General- ALL other building and research upgrades are Maxed. My walls are almost all level 8, about 40℅ are level 9. I have a few wall sections that are deliberately level 1 or 2 to bait the attack A.I.
All traps and units are Maxed. I'm not sure at this point, whether I want to advance an Age or not; with longer upgrade times, less opponents, less to do, less matches, less attacks, sounds like less fun. I barely get attacked ( successfully) now. I get peace treaties occasionally, I generally attack out of them anyway out of boredom. BHG & NEXUS need to really add play value to the upper ages of the game, or it will just stagnate and die like Clash of Clans & it's clones. Dominations has to evolve and actively grow, to remain a living, breathing Cash Machine for the developers. If they fail to do so, all the work they've done so far will ultimately mean nothing.

 

[serenity4jwr]

By the way: I never bothered to open the "Alliance Gate", and I haven't hunted a single animal of any type at all for Months; I don't use any of the various blessings, so I have no need at all for fur or leather. The only mercenaries I buy cost me metal and diamonds, and I usually maintain a surplus of those. I actually enjoy watching all the animals walk around on my base; it's a sign of life. ( like the little animations of workers).

 

[atom3]

In my opinion walls are highly overpriced taking in acount there are atleast 2 more ages coming

 

[JuDomines]

Dbuk, why do you say cheater Will ruin the game if alliance war come? I mean they are already there and I agree some player quit but most are still there. Why the alliance war would make a situation different than it is today?

 

[dbukalski]

In my opinion walls are highly overpriced taking in acount there are atleast 2 more ages coming

They are overpriced so that they stay a carrot in front of the grinders nose. In theory...if u remove the cheaters who are maxed. Walls would be a source of some pride for players to strive for

 

[dbukalski]

Dbuk, why do you say cheater Will ruin the game if alliance war come? I mean they are already there and I agree some player quit but most are still there. Why the alliance war would make a situation different than it is today?

Based on other games alliance wars will be something like....

Each player in ur alliance gets 5 attacks per day against random enemy alliance player.

Alliances like td, russian berserks, germany that have tons of maxed out wall players....and they attack with kitchen sink attacks will suffer fewer star defense losses

So lets say an alliance with normal players attacks 50 players in alliance x 5 attacks = 250 attacks with an average of 2 stars per battle against TD alliance = 500 stars earned by normal alliance

In the same day TD attacks back with its 50 players and thei cheaters and they use kitchen sink on every attack against the lvl9 ea defense normal alliance they will have 50 players x 5 attacks x 4 stars on average = 2000 stars earned.

Right now we tolerate the cheaters because its just one of many attacks we make during the day. We get whatever reasources we can and then move on mentally to next base attack. Were not emotionally invested in how poorly our attack goea against the max defense. And since close app is a thing. So defense wins dont happen. Which means we always lose defense. And weve grown numbe to the kitchen sink defense losses.

But once ur entire alliance is getting crushed by a cheater alliance. And score is being kept for the war. And it becomes glaringly obvious how out matched ur alliance is against the cheaters who roam free bhg does nothing about them.

Then people will decide theres no point in playing. Ive seen many games die by cheaters during alliance wars release

 

[Eddie F1]

I hope BHG have something a bit more sophisticated for Alliance War - your description sounds broken and boring before we've started.

 

[Cannibals]

There seem to be more players running into the No Opponents issue, making it more difficult to make legit progress with walls. Dropping medals to get back into a range where there are players to raid seems to be the most obvious strategy :/

 

[Eddie F1]

Just splurged 3m on my first Lvl10 brick.

 

[Eddie F1]

I was on YouTube to see if Bamboo had any more videos - not for a month now, maybe got bored/frustrated and quit too.

But there are 10's of hack videos and one conveniently shows a cheat building 10 bits of wall, so here are the crown values for L9 and up (L1 to L8 go a bit fast)

L9 - 693 crowns for 1m Gold
L10 - 1310 crowns for 3m Gold
L11 - 1618 crowns for 4m Gold
L12 - 1926 crowns for 5m Gold
L13 - 2235 crowns for 6m Gold

Per wall piece.

 

[USA Elite Will]

Wall math revised!

 

[USA Elite Will]

All these bases with maxed walls... hard to believe they all saved up 2,737,395,600 in gold...

 

[leetillu]

indeed... it sure is more possible now than before when you started this thread... but still for most not possible.

You could still easily check the date the base was created and do some math to find cheaters.. but well, we all know that noone really wants that...

We would immediately have the no opponents problem at a medal range of 2500 because of all the missing bases ;-)

 

[USA Elite Will]

I ask CS yesterday what day my account was created and they wouldn't tell me for security reasons? I know it was April 2015, just want to know the day lol

 

[Morality]

Oh dear.... I think I might save a considerable amount of time to build the Great Wall of China rather than to get all 130 lvl 13 walls.

 

[Cielmers]

I miss those guys. Reading Eddie sarcastic comments, dbukalsky complaints and ideas. If just nexon hear all they idea this game will have 5 stars rating not 3.5.

 

[USA Elite Will]

Yes, don't forget about others like Redgar and Aussie guy

 

[Empire]

I boosted my level 9 walls to 11 with some food and work, and got 8 self resetting traps in the deal

You mean with Level 11 walls, you get traps that reset themselves? Or did you need to upgrade them as well?

 

[Aitor-NationsLeague]

I have now all level 12 gates, two lvl 13, all wals level 9, working on level 10, the 3 millions ones. My total raid is 520 million.

I play a lot a day, though you know these games, you think you a play a lot like 3 hours a day, then there's always people that play more, like crazy 8 hours day ALL days, non stop.

Considering myself an average player, thinking that my first 3-4 month I could have done probably like 3 times more if knew all I know now...

I have not spent a single money in crowns, and have been some time not playing with the most efficent civilizations (now it's French), and mistakes etc, I think the cap for loot stolen by a legit but money spender player, can be higher than we think.

After all, other people in my alliance would consider amazing my total raid, saying that's mad, I think there can be legit people with easy 1.5 billion gold.

That's half the amount necessary, 3 billion for all the walls seems still far, but I think some of them, can actually be legit though insane people that can have spend hundreds and hundreds of $... You find guys like that in all online games, in 5 million or 10 total Dominations player, it's still possible.

If not, for a high spender though still reasonable, I think level 12 is a check point, that can be have still been achieved legit, though seems difficult.

Just do the math for the total amount a player can raid in a day... Say an attack every 5 minutes, or 6, maybe a bit ideal case, for possible. 10 attacks. If he can raid with victory bonus in a convenient league, say total 400k gold, makes for 10-12 attacks x 400k gold attack , say 4 million hour. Playing consistent 6-8 hours a day, can give for example 30 million a day.

3 billion / 30 million, it's "only" 100 days.

The game have now on for some people for more than a year, like 400 days. So means that even lowering that ideal averages, that I think can be real for a heavy player and a bit spender, we have that it could have been achieved...

That been said probably 90% of maxed level 13 walls are cheaters, but with online games you never know...

 

[ecco88]

Wish I can use all of this excess food to build high level walls.... say level 9 or 10 + you can use food towards walls. But that might be too much like another game.