Weekly Feedback Thread: Thoughts on Raiders!

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Raiding other players is a great way to get resources. How well do you feel you're able to raid your opponents? Do you think other players are raiding you too easily? Are Cavalry Raiders part of your regular troop rotation?

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Redgar

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Yep, another nerf is coming for raidernations. Wrong path. We use them, because you made us. It's easy to defend from them, you just have to know how to build. You'll get another portion of rage I suppose and they will remember everything ))) from HC to guerillas. It won't help, caz some of us know how to sniper without them.
 

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20 raiders dead in an instance on one trap..... very very bad (seen it more then once)

raiders are more busy with nearby troops then getting the loot

raiders wich rather go through a wall then walk the other way for easy loot.

U need raiders, more then the other troops, but damn, they are dumb and die too easy when running around as a group
 

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Yup, very obvious another nerf is coming- and it's been obvious for a very long time because it's such a typical pattern. My army is still diverse; I don't do spam raids. I do carry some raiders (six) at every raid and drop typically 3-6 depending on what I'm doing (ie, clearing a base or looting resources). I'm able to maintain a steady enough flow of resources to upgrade a little at a time at a very slow pace with little regard for aging up. I used to be much more aggressive in raiding, having a heck of a lot more fun- but with nerfs and AI issues I have had to slow down substantially because the game became extremely frustrating and not much fun. However, at this rate I see little chance of being able to raid the necessary resources for higher age upgrades, won't spend any money on the game in it's current state (bugs, glitches, AI problems etc..), and will likely grow too bored to continue playing at some point. So, the issues have effectively slowed down my game progression, with the consequence of slowly eating away at my interest. As for defence- I use good base designs and try to maximize my use of wonders, so I am able to defend effectively. I watch my replays when I am seriously attacked and make adjustments as necessary. I typically won't lose more than 1/2 of each resource, if that, and when I do my defenses typically overwhelm invaders. When people get loot off me they usually bring a lot for it, and they deserve every penny they get. Good base design is key- doesn't matter to me if I'm spammed by raiders, they still won't wipe my base and I won't be bothered by the loot they get. Bottom line really is that nerfing units isn't the answer to making people happy- fixing the functionality of units is preferred so that they work efficiently as intended. If my units all functioned properly I could raid much more effectively, gather more resources, and maintain a more satisfactory level of play. (Btw, how do I create paragraphs? Hitting enter doesn't work and a big blob of writing is annoying).
 

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Hmm.. May be create another topic with all these nerfs history. I'd like to read it. You're probably the biggest raiders expert over here ))) Winter is coming.
 

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Wow are they freaking kidding? Are they already planning ANOTHER nerf? I'm wondering if anyone over at BHG actually plays this game? Please help me understand what part of raiding a maxed out Industrial Age cheaters base is "too easy". At this point in the game that's all I see. It's frankly impossible to count how many maxed out Industrial Age bases I've reported and even worse how many I've seen. Regardless of those numbers try actually raiding one of them and please tell us how and why it was "too easy". Since the developers aren't banning the majority of these cheaters, they find it a top priority to keep nerfing our troops to help them.
 

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Because things are too expensive, the game requires long attention from players to keep raiding. The resources gained can rarely be safeguarded for long because we will get raided by multiple players - my record was being attacked 17 times in 24 hours if I remembered correctly and I lost about 1.3M Gold and 1.8M Roasted Chickens.

Not sure what you guys intend to nerf again. If you can, perhaps increase back the HC attacks. If you keep nerfing, there will always be another so-called powerful unit. Might as well set all the troop stats to ATK 1 instead. Then there is nothing more to nerf and everyone can just go play DomiNationVille - farming style.
 

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I wrote like 2 pages worth of stuff talking about everything regarding raiding. Breaking down every unit. Whats broken, how to improve. Ai, tactics, medals anything i could think of then they deleted it. Wonder which part they didnt want others to read
 

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Based on the topic title. I think what they wanted was...do u guys feel raiding is too easy because raiders are too raidy? Then we come on and start screaming about broken raiders. Then their like...ok if u guys insist...raider nerf
 

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I do want to read this ))) also, check my use case I posted in new topic, which may stop them from being too hard on raiders and may be fix some range/path/ai issues for them
 

David Pasquinel

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We all know where this is leading... Whenever there is a unit spam, they go there and nerf the unit instead of balancing the battle system as a whole.

People were spamming infantry - they got their attack range nerfed so now they need to hugh their targets.
People were spamming melee cavalry - they nerfed the hell out of the unit.
People are now spamming raiders - guess what will happen?
 

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Oh goodie! Raiders are getting a nerf, now it's going to be the british archer's time to get hit by the nerf hammer after that! Raiders do not need a nerf. BUFF the other units, BALANCE civilizations instead of nerfing the raider. Raiders stop to attack the invading units, so keep them there, that's enough of a nerf.
 

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Raiders AI is one of the most balanced for any unit types currently. It is not overpowered. It considers least resistant path towards res targets and fights back defenders when attacked.
 

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Do u even PLAY this game? Sounds like you don't. Me and my coworkers all agreed on quitting and deleting the game if any nerfs on raiders happens.
 
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