Weekly Feedback Thread: Thoughts on Raiders!

[dbukalski]

My base design is far from perfect (maybe I need to take some lessons from Redgar), but even if attacked by a full army of HC, cannons, SC, heroes, the whole lot, I never get taken for more than 25-50% percent of my resources and usually get a good laugh. But if I'm spammed by raiders I'm rarely laughing, despite the fact that all my storages are in separate compartments I usually lose 50-75% of resources to raider attacks. I'm against nerfs in general and I don't think one is warranted here. I will say this, it takes around 30-40 mins to retrain a full army (HC, Cannons, SC, etc.) without training blessing, it ONLY takes 15mins to retrain a raider army that is often more effective and has about the same life expectancy.

Compared to other units raiders are op. But mostly the other units are too weak. Their going to nerf raiders because thats easy. No question about it. After the nerf raiders their going to step back to see what happens next. Their going to find the combat is still not the combined armes their looking for. There will be one more nerf. But the average player will have lost patience with a combat system that makes u want to pull ur hair out with frustration. Raiders are the last line of defense between being able to raid satisfactorily and being at the mercy of the overall weakness of the battle units at our disposal. If they were smart they would fix the unit balance across the board before they bring raiders back in line with a nerf.

 

[Redgar]

Yes, we need to keep looting at least 3m gold/hour to successfully build those walls. If they give strong rewards for 4th-5th star (+100% to loot let's say), buff oil units on cooking times, fix HC on dps or AI, improve rally, buff training blessing for everybody to 90%, make victory conditions harder, raiders would naturally go away.

 

[Tickling]

I agree that raiders only seem OP, and 75% of that OP'ness stems from the fact that they are the only unit with a decent A.I. Or at least one that works consistently like it's supposed to.

 

[Nathan Win]

The devs should work on bugs and cheaters instead of continually nerfing units.

 

[dbukalski]

They will say their working on all of it at same time. Cheats bugs and balance changes which is true. They are working on it all at the same time. Their just not smart enough to realize. Just because a nerf is ready to update. U should wait until the right time. When the nerf comes, before the battle system is otherwise properly balanced ull have players left hanging out on the branch. Without a meaningful way to raid. Just like they nerfed hc before fixing the AI. Wrong order. First fix hc AI then nerf as needed. Otherwise u take an op unit and make it useless. Which is much worse for the game, player base and u lose people. Every time they make one of these stupid decisions they lose..:lets say 3% of the player base. Which adds up. And that 3% is responsible for word of mouth growing the game in the future.

 

[Redgar]

They understand 'divercity' as more or less similar complex armies, but not as a number of different successful strategies, even if they include 2-3 unit types. This way they want all units to have single function and making them worse and worse to achievr that. I still remember the times when they buffed raiders because noone was using them lol even after buff ))) because soldiers were so good.

 

[Redgar]

So the best quick fix I see is buffing TC hit points twice or 50% at least. Less 5 demolitions and a bit harder for raiders to win. Everybody ahould be happy

 

[Haven]

It's not called paranoid when the comments coming in are all negative concerning another nerf. Maybe BHG will actually give a crap what we think and fix the AI, rally, and retarded number of maxed bases that were there 2days after IA released. No one believes anyone is stupid enough to pay that much money on a game (thousands$) in today's world economy. But if BHG actually thinks those people did pay that much, I guess that explains all the hackers in the chat offering free crowns while BHG keeps telling us they are handling it. So how about they stop telling us what they think would work and start listening to the problems we have. Enough with the nerfs. Any good player learns how to defend against the so called OP troops long before the nerfs. Fix the AI and rally for crying out loud. The troops remind me of a hampster in a maze!

 

[Porcupine]

I have never used raiders in my life.

 

[Porcupine]

When I request troops and someone donates raiders.. I drop them in single player campaigns, report them to customer service and kick the player out of the alliance

 

[Jane Monroe]

Nice subject for a game forum...rape.

 

[Porcupine]

"Rape" is officially an approved word in English literature since 1927, I don't see any shame or disrespect in using it, except -of course- for the sexually frustrated (not implying anyone is).

 

[Porcupine]

rape
verb
: to force (someone) to have sex with you by using violence or the threat of violence

Full Definition of RAPE

transitive verb
1
a archaic : to seize and take away by force
b : despoil
2
: to commit rape on
— rap·er noun
— rap·ist \ˈrā-pist\ noun
See rape defined for English-language learners
Examples of RAPE

He is accused of raping the girl.
She was raped by a fellow student.
Origin of RAPE

Middle English, from Latin rapere
First Known Use: 14th century
Related to RAPE
Synonyms
assault, force, outrage, ravish, violate

Source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rape

 

[Tickling]

I agree with Jane. Not classy dude.

 

[Porcupine]

Nice comment for a game forum Mr Respectful guys .... Shout out to the Moderators, reports and bans are for members who respect other members right?

 

[Porcupine]

Nice subject for a game forum...rape. F'n A**hole

Nice comment for a game forum Mr Respectful guys .... Shout out to the Moderators, reports and bans are for members who respect other members right?

PS: He edited his comment that's why the swears doesn't show.

 

[Porcupine]

I agree with Jane. Not classy dude.

I'm a fan of your creative and funny comments and contribution to the forum and the game, for that i will edit the post.

 

[Porcupine]

Plus you need some sense of humor, Desperately.

 

[Guest]

No nerf planned. Not sure why it's "obvious" to anyone?

 

[Guest]

No? No one said anything about a nerf. Jeez, people!