“The Road to Better World War Matchmaking” aka Sandbagging!

poop_

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Yeah, I bet there afraid of some poop flinging... My apologies. :p
 

Jakob_888

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Hi TimTrain. I would love this fix also. Noone want these mismatches. I dont know how you will do it.
I hope when you fix it, you will take all teams into consideration.
The new teams, the low level teams, the diverse teams, the high level teams etc.
Personally I would be very disapointed if you just narrow the matching gap. My team allready wait a very long time to get matched because there not so many teams at our current level. Especially after high level teams started to use iron ages.
 
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Equal

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it is coming soon. (about 2034 may or smth, when first players will max out university in a legal and natural way).
 

Phil-Elite

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Just received a report from a friend in the top 20 about Rus Army. They are an alliance that is massively sandbagged and over-hacked. Pictures won't load up here but one of their War screens showed just a camel caravan. Nexon were asked to intervene but decided to just let it go. Have many of you faced similar bases/alliances?
 

Wendy

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We met them and we know for sure they are cheaters.
They have many hacked profiles they develop in the moment the other are banned after reporting.
I have many screenshots to prove this. I'd like Nexon to do something about it.
PM me if you want to know more
 

Nb4powerup

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I'm up to address this. First, send me the reports/screenshots...or even the player names/age so that I can look into them further. I'd love to see the evidence that Nexon decided to let it go as we actively investigate and ban accounts.
 

Phil-Elite

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From what I hear, one player's whole army disappeared during a battle. In another battle EA level tower defences destoyed 4 jets all in one over flight. A wall was penetrated by wall miners twice but the troops just kept firing at the space in the wall. A player at level 159 had overclocked walls making him almost impossible to destroy. Rus Army then attacked and barely dropped points from their top ten against solid defences that had defended fairly well against much higher level players.

The problem with such behaviour is that proper players are no longer prepared to pay for crowns, when they see cheats prosper, and Nexon finds excuses to do nothing. The pictures the CS received were blatant, exposing serious cheats. The alliance received negative responses from Nexon. Word quickly passed to many top 50 alliances and there is now an informal embargo on buying crowns. Nexon loses, the honest players lose, the app loses.

Because of loading constraints I can't load the picture. If anyone has a view it might be helpful to all players to see the levels of cheating.
 

Europeos

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Maybe you could record some attacks and send the YouTube links. This would help expose them.
 

Warlord1981

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We've encountered bases that are using bots to manage them. Like back in CoC. These bases are apparent because they are always logged on, they are upgrading in unison, and honestly, you just get the feel that people didn't create this.
 

Warlord1981

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Empty vessels and even more noise.

I half expected a coherent response from at least one of you guys, but all of you to post mediocre moaning is a tad disappointing. Although in several cases perhaps not understanding the content I assume comes down to genuine language issues.

Just to clarify: I don't play 24/7, buy dirty crowns, support sand-bagging, endorse multiple identities, encourage spying, or kick players (unless racist or abusive). Yes, I have been deeply involved in many of the top 20 alliances. I know several of their academies and have been schooled by 4 of the top war fighters (who at this stage shall remain nameless). Yes I can tell the difference between top fighting teams and poor fighters. The language players adopt identifies them between the good and the bad - if that renders me elitist so be it; but I have also trained a lot of top players in return,which is also part of the game. I have also travelled a lot and helped several teams reach the top and can tell the difference between top and average alliances.

When I wrote this not a game I meant it. Having long been a war-gamer with miniatures, boards and computers, I can assure you all this is not a game. Last night, 12 guys in a London pub fought a wargame re-enacting the battle of Hastings in 1066. There were rules, guidelines and dice. Almost certain victory was stolen by an unexpected suicide charge by a regiment of axemen. There was no money differentiating the players of either side, no one was armed with tanks or aeroplanes, and no Glory points were applied to the winning side. Everyone shook hands and had a beer discussin the game - that's a game.

Dominations is more than a game, whether to the people who spend thousands, those who play every moment of their waking hours, or those who are would be paper dictators and plastic emperors. What separates players is the ability to win wars and fight battles. Many of those without money have perfected their skills to win fights, and many of those players have gravitated to the top 20. The leagues have issues, many old top 20's under the medal system have disappeared, and the present league is in a state of flux. However, I guarantee all the changes you demand in sandbagging and everything else is never going to reverse your positions. If you guys were going to be on top it would have happened in the first month of Glory when the league was in flux.

Dominations is a relentless brutal battle without mercy, and all you guys play in the same environment and community as me. For all your 'fairness' I bet none of you think twice before looting a weaker player for their oil or other goodies. This game is dog eat dog, get real and learn how to fight. Get off your self righteous soap boxes because you ain't convincing anybody, least of all those who know how to fight.

Phil Man, just.... Wow I'm finally speechless. Just,....wow what a character you are.
 

poop_

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Phil went to rehab and got his trollish tendencies under control. :)
 

Phil-Elite

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There is a lot of that but they are not big threats in the Glory war arena. Rus Army blatantly cheat and use defence hacks - all of which are available on the internet. It's so obvious, especially maxing walls and pretending to be a level 159, and similar set ups. That actually renders the sandbagging debate redundant because none of the lower level teams complaining here have any hope of competing with them, while Nexon appear reluctant to remove cheats. The replication of the Rus Army system by the other Russian alliances further exposes Nexon's indecision, and highlights the inherent weaknesses in the Glory system. This can be seen in the very rapid rise in the Russian alliances and their congregation in the top 20. Remarkably, the challenges in the Glory top 20 have made it easier to see who is overclocking the system or cheating.
 

S_How

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Nb4powerup NB4, any updates, actions or timelines yet? Sandbagging and crashes are all people in my alliance care about atm...they are such a bad game experience its driving people away. I see there has been a post with substantial info on the improvement for crashes. How about something similar for Sandbagging/stalemates?
 

Glacier

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Segregation!!!!! Have a stacker league and a legit league. Cause if you ain't stacking, you ain't packing any glory. Glory is a fail! Big ups Nexon ;-]
 

Hugh Jazz

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No drugs will help you phil .. poor parenting and a sense of self importance is your ruin.
 

Trippel

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My thought had always been to Weight top ranked players more than lower ranked players. #1's war weight obviously is way more important than #30's war weight in regards to it being an equal war.
I would suggest weighing the top third at 100% of their actual war weight. the middle third at something in the 60-75% range. The lower third at about 10-40%.

This would reduce the downward pull of the meaningless sandbags. and put the actual weight where it belongs... at the top and somewhat at the middle.
 

Glacier

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If they/you are adding irons and classics, why can't they be actives? Are y'all so stuck up to not even teach new players?

Stalemates huh, why does the rest of DomiNations have to suffer so 5 freaking alliances can at least match in a world war?

Lol, poor lil thang.
 
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