“The Road to Better World War Matchmaking” aka Sandbagging!

[nikki bella]

Having read all these comments, a couple of issues spring to mind.

The very best players, plotters, commanders and generals will lose those very skills if the sandbagging route continues. Yes, while it might be seen as a very clever tactic to fill your roster with non functioning accounts in order to achieve victory, in the long term, I cannot see it achieving anything except tainted 'glory'. All the top half of the roster has to do is simply press the deploy button and watch their troops flatten smaller bases. There is no skill involved, no learning, no growth.

Warring against similar sized accounts with similar rosters is what builds growth. Encouraging smaller accounts to develop ensures longevity in the game. Employing new tactics, strategies, compositions, whatever, is what promotes alliance unity and loyalty. Communicating, encouraging, teaching, learning. Do any of these things mean anything to a 'top' alliance?



Phil, when you 'popped' into hz, did you declare your hand? Did you offer advice or support? Did you explain that you were there to...... to what? Arm yourself with folly to bring to forums and try to ridicule an alliance which accepted you in? Did you chat while there? Tell these people who you were and where you were from? Did you ask for or donate troops? What was your reason to visit?

Empty vessels you say... why not first have a look at yourself and all your 'noise'?

 

[Max_imus]

I got your point and I do agree with it. I dont support that because I think there are other solutions (complicated ones thats true), but I have no disrespect to those alliances.
BUT...
You forget one important feature. Im not saying this list is not right! But it is not considering past. When the samdbagging problem has started, at least UA Obsidian and K1, 50 were not in that position! They were able to match with somebody else in 40v40 or 45v45 if they didnt use stacking accounts. The thing is that they got themselfs to this position mainly because of great recruits coming there cuz of that spotlight in top 100(more like top20)as a result of manipulated matches. Thats the hypocrasy of those teams.

 

[Nakfarfar Titi]

Max_imus Maybe, I don't have enough data to make a judgment about this but you might be right. I know for a fact that at least UA started extream sandbagging from day one.
Some of the others joined the movement a bit late. For example we tried staying without sandbags for more than 2 weeks after glory release and like usual it was only stalemates and boring rematch after rematch after rematch, and it got worse and worse as time move on.
This is how I know for sure there's no hope anymore for big heavy wars without adding sandbags. Because I've been there, it's not theories and just talks.
If at the early stages of glory leaderboard it was impossible to have fun and get some glory, can you imagine how worse it got now that more alliances joined the movement? We would simply be forever alone.

 

[Eisenoxyde]

Phil, I blame Nexon for creating a system that allows high level players to artificially lower their ranking so they can beat on completely outclassed opponent. It's like a professional sports team going against a high school team - no matter how hard the high school team tries, they will get destroyed.

 

[Nb4powerup]

Let's take it down a notch. Flame wars does nothing and in the end, leaves everyone burnt out.

 

[Equal]

so why those top teams should advance further by beating weaker alliances. this is a problem for nexon to fix ASAP. And i agree that those top teams have no other way, but at first, what do you expect, when 30 nearly max or max players bond together. this is the price for being head and shoulders above everyone else. they made a mistake by making a ww size the most important thing.

 

[Equal]

and btw, what is actual use of glory anyway?? alliances gets no benefits from it. and as for our average alliance it is not even being on the top 100 would change a lot. we are alliance from a small nation, so not even interested in new international players.

 

[Max_imus]

I know. As I said, I despise teams like Quebec Glory and USA Dankness et al for that, not your aliance.

 

[Max_imus]

We are burn out from war bugs not the discussion Nb4. Btw I know at least 10 people who would like to buy Estate but they will not because they dont want to invest in broken game. Fix bugs first pls, we dont care about Atomic age.

 

[Nb4powerup]

I understand your sentiment but I'm not going to allow discussions that only attack each other. Dem's the rules.

 

[QuébecGlory]

Dem's the rules, but none stop bashing still goes on....yet my posts get deleted if I say something negative against the haters. You have a job to do Nb4. Coming up with solutions should be the focus. The entire forum is polluted with bashing posts, which btw, don't work. Nothing is changing, more and more teams are sandbagging. Nexon will have to address the issue quickly. Until then, the negative comments about other teams are useless, and should not be tolerated.

 

[dannemare]

Max_imus, your assumption on UA Obsidian is incorrect. UA Obsidian is what was earlier called United Allies. You seem to not be familiar with their war record and matching abilities.

 

[Eisenoxyde]

Nb4powerup When is Nexon going to take it up a notch and start fixing the problem? One would hope that 4 weeks after admitting there was a problem at least some improvements would have been made.

 

[Chadwicke]

I like how someone said that only certain alliances need to sand bag it's 80%+ of the top 100 now and new alliances are all doing it too ,look at alliance gate they are all asking for irons and classical bases why to sandbag, make it a requirement to have a castle to war

 

[QuébecGlory]

Medievals have castles. Medievals with Globals is still sandbagging. But coming up with ideas is going in the right direction. I suggested lots of ideas, including that there should'nt be more than 2 age difference between the first and last player on a WW roster. For example, an alliance could have Globals, IA and EA, or IA, EA and GP, which is an improvement on the current system imo.

 

[Chadwicke]

12 isn't a couple of sandbags that's 1/4 of the alliance. Some haven't logged on in 50 days or more in all of the 3 1st dynasty clans that's not a couple

 

[Chadwicke]

Here is my solution to all of this, must have a command post and a castle to go to war simple and easy no dead accounts can't be dead if they grow. Until a castle is built unavailable should be what you see

 

[Chadwicke]

Yes but medevil isn't sandbag a medevil can fight a gunpowder , it also can reach level 70 this would increase the level of the alliance not allowing a alliance with 4 198s to meet a team with nothing over 170 and perfect scores would disappear

 

[Nakfarfar Titi]

What can I say, when a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.

 

[Chadwicke]

So your calling me an imbecile really, to justify your stacking I'll post screenshots so all can we your levels 9-12 per alliance that are dead accounts you use in war who wants to see