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onetime80

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Edited each point for clarification due to facebook messages. We will not update wiki or wonder / unique data in the future. We no longer play, our alliance is disbanded. They didn't listen to concerns during beta

1. Unique units should only be cosmetic, not stat differences!!
Because throughout the ages, certain nations receive stupid stat bonuses over others. Low level, these bonuses were as high as 80%, which was ridiculous (and why many new French, Greek, Chinese, British players complained and gave up) Equal stats means no constant buffing / nerfing, and that time can be spent making other content for the game.

It is just game balance. I know some people don't care about balance because they need a handicap edge over others, and to them I say - **** you.

2. Edit: most nation powers are fine, but Romans need a change
Because its way too powerful end-game. It should be something like 2 bonus unit capacity per barracks (not upgrades) for a total of 6 bonus unit capacity at end-game (3 barracks at 2 bonus each = 6)

3. There should only be 75%, 100% and town center victory conditions
Because it's way too easy to get 50%, it's almost impossible not to get 50% with a full army deployed. Therefore there is no point in defensive buildings at end-game. The standard 3 star system removes the need for balancing attack / defense all the time. Focus on adding content, not fixing ****ty content.

Another reason detailed in point 4.

4. You should only be allowed one wonder!!!! The wonder should provide a strong bonus to your nation.
Having many in your base means nothing, when they don't actually do anything.

Everything but Notre Dame is useless.

You may think acropolis and colosseum are useful, but you're wrong. End-game they don't do anything because you're going to lose via 50% victory anyway. If you are still in classical age, you don't know **** about the game.

Why is colosseum useless? Because the resources Notre Dame saves you, outweighs the resources the colosseum saves you. It may help you in the classical age against weak players, but that's only saving you at most 50,000 resources per 12 hours. (MAYBE)

Why pick Terra-cotta?, the resources it helps you gain (MAYBE) once per day is nothing near the resources Notre Saves you.

The 50% victory condition denies the Forbidden City from doing anything other than give you a small amount of food per day (and it costs 400,000 to build don't forget)

Pyramids, Hanging Gardens, Stonehenge, Taj-mahal, Takal, Acropolis, Ankor all garbage. THEY DON'T FUKING DO ANYTHING!!! Versailes is now somewhat useful to give a buff to cavalry HP spams, but isn't necessary.

And to anyone that can't comprehend these reasons, **** you again.
 
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armyvet_65

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anyone thats played clash for any length of time especially people like me who have a maxed base know that Clash is stale, boring and hasnt had anything new in a long time.....oh wait t hey just added a thing that blows air at flying objects to slow them down......yes t hat their major upgrade of the year so far, lmao
 

armyvet_65

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what i dont get is why do people like onetime go looking for a new game to play and when they find one all they do is complain and cry because the new game isnt like Clash..... so just go back to Clash onetime and play youir stale old boring game, have fune chasing stars and pushing for whatever
 

dbukalski

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1) disagree i like unique stat units......2) disagree....3) agree..:..4) disagre. i like multiple wonders. i do want them to be more effective.......5) agree.....
 

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My guess is that Onetime80 is a TH8 farming gold 3. When he maxes his base and makes it to champs he will understand how broken clash is at the top. Dominations is not perfect and still contains lots of major bugs, but the basic design has lots of elements that can potentially keep it more fun for long term game play. We need to see what their war system will look like and what happens when the higher levels are introduced but so far I am hopeful it will be better in the long term. It is interesting that he wants dominations to switch to the three star system like clash. That is one of the main complaints that high level Th10s mostly agree has ruined high level wars. In fact, there has recently been a lot of discussion on supercells forums requesting a switch to the five star system to make high level wars more competative.
 

Funken_A

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I disagree with much of the OP's condemnation. Don;'t see what the issues are that he is trying to point out.

I think the battle system could use some tweaks to make it more exciting, and the ability to see the lvl differences cosmetically more so than they are now.. BUt overall most of what the op posted doesn't apply from my point of view, and I play CoC regulalry
 

Showdang

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In CoC you MUST gem your barracks to farm efficiently or you will lose 5x more than you steal while you wait for yor army to cook. That means CoC is Pay-to-Win trash. In Dom, you get to keep your army. In CoC I sometimes have to hit the NEXT button 100 times to find something worth attacking because cheapskate Supercell hides inactives to cripple the economy and push the sale of gems. In Dom I never have to NEXT more than 3 times. I don't know how you can compare Clash of Crap to this far superior game.
 

woolybugger

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I don't play CoC but I'm an avid Boom Beach player.
BB beats Dominations hands down, no contest whatsoever.

What is frustrating about Dominations is:
  • farming/production is too slow. needs better way for passive farmers to progress. choose viable farming strategy.
  • there are too many different troops types/names and also each nation has unique ones. The cacophony of variety makes it confusing and hard for you to understand what is attacking you. simplify it by saying warrior lvl 1,2,3,4.; horseman lvl 1,2,3,4, raider lvl 1,2,3,4... and everyone has the same. this allows us to better understand the attacker's troops.
  • alliance is a waste of time, donating/receiving negligible troops and chatting about nonsense is useless
  • league rewards give pittance of loot it's actually better to not be in a league
  • give us more than 30seconds to decide on attacking a base
  • allow us to click on the opponents defense to know the lvl/stats of that defense
  • with the huge variety of nations, I see buildings I have no idea what they do so I go into battle with one eye closed and hope it's not some super-boosted defense.
  • in order to have strategy, we need to have information about the opponent, and there is not enough to do proper planning.
  • bugs bugs bugs bugs, they are a morale killer.
 

Astruh

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Mine would just be the effectiveness of farming... They're expensive and it'll take weeks to return what you spent... Increase farming and this game will surpass clash of clans. Clash of clans has become the equivalent of getting on for war and getting the hell of.
 

DomiNationsVigiles

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I don't play CoC but I'm an avid Boom Beach player.
BB beats Dominations hands down, no contest whatsoever.

What is frustrating about Dominations is:
  • league rewards give pittance of loot it's actually better to not be in a league

Have you upgraded to the latest version yet? These were for sure boosted :)

I've passed your other thoughts on to the devs, thanks for your feedback!
 

dbukalski

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Have you upgraded to the latest version yet? These were for sure boosted :) I've passed your other thoughts on to the devs, thanks for your feedback!
i just bumped myself from 200 medals to 1000 to see what the boost its. its still worthless. not worth fighting tougher opponents for + 4k resources when i can farm softer targets
 

woolybugger

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at 400 medals I was getting about 2500 food league reward. Is the update just for android or ios also?
Let me go back and see what kind of reward I get this time.
I can easily attack a player and get 10k so it better have improved 5x to make it worthwhile.
 

Redgar

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Well, I am for polite discussion and I've never been a big fan of CoC, but the magic about dominations is gone and I have to agree with topic starter here. However, I think that all units should be unique, but balanced. Interesting civilization layer of this game brought so many unbalanced issues to mechanics, while itself it became a fake. It's not even a try to go Blizzard's path. Fake wonders, fake nation differences, fake Cleopatra in medieval castle, fake free-to-win, fake free crowns issue resolution. Users feel it and come up with angry opinions.
 

Whatwhat

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Vigils. League rewards in the latest version are worse. Now that you have taken the crowns out there is less incentive to be in the league.
 

Xx-Saber-xX

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Okay...We need to stop this. We need to just calm down. This guy is correct. This game has no balance. But, i gope in the next update..it will make the game balance.

Also, why everyone is ignoring me or hates me?
 

Redgar

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I quit silvel 1 league immidiatelly after crowns were taken away. I had to do this cheating stuff of destroying farms and quitting. What a game designer can be happy when players are forced to do such things??? After delivering tens of thousands free crowns to selected players, taking crowns from free players is the worst decision you could make.
 

firedancer

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I understand if someone comes from the CoC world, one can develop much dissatisfaction for this game. But there is one thing to remember - This is DomiNations and not CoC. If we missed CoC so much, go back and play it. Also, we should stop trying to ask for features or want to make DomiNations to look like CoC.

Sometimes, maybe by looking at how other games perform poorer than CoC, it may make you appreciate CoC more.

This is a 1+ month game. Let it grow. It you like it, support it. If you don't like it, move on. There are plenty of similar genre games that could suit your taste and play style.
 
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