Moctezuma leader

[British Coffee]

I was expecting him to be blessing related leader and maybe you suffer damage penalty when fighting people using spanish client

 

[MartinK12]

I haven't hunt a bear in months I simply can't get 6 free workers at the same time

 

[Bedlam]

I think its great. I still hunt and gather... i love the flammpanzers

 

[KniferX]

'and maybe you suffer damage penalty when fighting people using spanish client'
What.

 

[KniferX]

I swear, these people who talk about how the hunting and harvesting chapters are useless, love looking at these timers and wasting time of their day. Just wow.

 

[Imaera]

Those people are hunting while waiting for a few shooters to retrain, so they aren't wasting time that's not already wasted. But how many seconds(and workers) are wasted for completing those useless 4 chapters and here i include also hunting, mining and gathering yield?

 

[LordJestix]

Manifesto i know this, i only did the 3 i needed to move on to get to what i really wanted done, but in the end they will need to be completed to get the capstone.

 

[Sentex]

For those who are in advanced Ages (ex: Global and Atomic), the new leader is for the most part useless except for a couple chapters. But for those who have just started playing the game, the new leader is actually quite beneficial.

 

[Motaz Tarek]

30% bonus coalition won't affect anything cuz everyone will have it in 2 or 3 weeks, yet another passive upgrade that eats up more time resources and citizens

 

[poop_]

Well, I think it is better than requiring 2 weeks to research the bottom one (and having no prereqs). This way you have breaks in between the researches to build a wall, kill a bunny, or clean up that oil spill.

Nexon messes up a lot of things, but I don't think this is one of them. Yeah, some of the stuff isn't that useful, but you don't have to do it. And, some of the stuff is useful to me. If it is at the end, so what? Why would they put the good stuff at the beginning? That would be silly.

 

[KniferX]

You are wasting time, you're staring at a screen waiting for 20 or 10 second timers to tick, instead of, I don't know, doing literally anything else for those several minutes until the army retrains! Besides, since you're so obsessed with worker time, why are you hunting while looting? Shouldn't you finish up the harvesting as fast as possible and get them working on a building or in uni?
I would understand complaining about library/uni/temple health chapters that are indeed useless, this on the other hand is very misdirected.

 

[Dhruv patel]

If you've researched Hiawatha and Mansa musa. This leader's tech are less of a burden. But to me the payout is great. Your farms and caravans essentially have 90% boost in production overall + 20% if you've chosen pyramids or Stonehenge (40% permanent and 50% from research). Oil wells and the vault have more capacity and hunting and gathering become more worth while and his end bonus of giving you another random National trade good in victories is good for players that want to world war,and the coalition receive a 30% boost making them both effective and easier to get (sort off) and forest clearing is faster. I'd say this a great leader to research maybe one of the best leaders they released

 

[GailWho]

I think we have to look at the introduction of this leader on a macro level (from the perspective of the entire game of players, not the individual players of the game). These upgrades may not do something for an AA player who has been at this for 2 1/2 years but it will have a great impact on the newer player coming in and the alts produced by seasoned players. Imagine all the players who have left the game while we all have continued to trudge on in our upgrades. How will they be replaced by players beginning at the dawn age? It took years to get where we are and really in order for the game to work we need a sufficient pool of viable bases to attack in war and attackers to attack us. BHG is providing this by supplying the new accounts with a means to get to the playing field faster and giving the veterans a couple toys to play with like increased coalition in the process. In the end this new leader is better for the game because it keeps the game alive and kicking.

 

[lettucefolk]

I think we have to look at the introduction of this leader on a macro level (from the perspective of the entire game of players, not the individual players of the game). These upgrades may not do something for an AA player who has been at this for 2 1/2 years but it will have a great impact on the newer player coming in and the alts produced by seasoned players. Imagine all the players who have left the game while we all have continued to trudge on in our upgrades. How will they be replaced by players beginning at the dawn age? It took years to get where we are and really in order for the game to work we need a sufficient pool of viable bases to attack in war and attackers to attack us. BHG is providing this by supplying the new accounts with a means to get to the playing field faster and giving the veterans a couple toys to play with like increased coalition in the process. In the end this new leader is better for the game because it keeps the game alive and kicking.

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[GailWho]

Thanks speaking from the heart and I love this game.

 

[JuDomines]

Untrue. Having all forests cleared is a decent advantage in Wars.

 

[LordJestix]

To me its starting to turn me off from the game, sure im happy about forest clear reduction, but at the same time i see this as, " i need to spend more resources and workers to reduce a time limit to where it should be without the reduction"

Really if they wanted to get players to higher levels faster they need to actually reduce the base time it takes to upgrade.

I mean when you look at the university, as an advanced age its just a little bit of time to finish maxing it as you should have most of your university done. BUT to a new player i see a mountain of research i have to complete just to try and catch up to advanced players. Im not sure if you have seen my "how long does it take to max" post but it takes 4.5 years to fully max an aa account without using crowns.

In the grand scheme of things, how much does hunting time reduction really help a player?

 

[Tsamu]

7 out of 10 chapters are useless, And the useful ones are, of course, at the bottom. 4 full chapters dedicated to hunting and mining.. what a joke! That would have been useful in dawn age, when hunting was the only income

You can't build the university until Gunpowder age, so Dawn age can't benefit from this. But that's beside the point. The faster gathering/mining/hunting is a big quality-of-like improvement for me. I have multiple bases, and it used to take me 15 minutes each morning just collecting resources. Now I am done in 3 minutes, and I can get in an extra raid. How is that useless?

 

[LordJestix]

You can't build the university until Gunpowder age, so Dawn age can't benefit from this. But that's beside the point. The faster gathering/mining/hunting is a big quality-of-like improvement for me. I have multiple bases, and it used to take me 15 minutes each morning just collecting resources. Now I am done in 3 minutes, and I can get in an extra raid. How is that useless?

a vast majority of the playerbase doesnt have several accounts like you, a lot of people also rarely have enough workers to hunt anything other than rabbits. i find them pretty useless.

the forest clear is going to save me some time, but once i have them all cleared its a dead research. these time reductions should not have been a university research, the stats should have been changed to the base game instead.

 

[Dhruv patel]

Does this coalition boost apply to its' troops as well? So for example the Maori Toa defenders have 30% more hit points and damage