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Peace Treaty Duration Reduction

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Greetings Leaders,

We’re aware that many players have recently been encountering an issue where they are unable to find a matchmaking opponent.

We believe this is due to the rapid increase in matches following the new seasonal Leaderboards release causing more Peace Treaties to be placed on bases.

To combat this, we will be reducing the duration of multiplayer, defeat-earned Peace Treaties on active bases to the following:
  • 8 hours reduced to 2 hours
  • 12 hours reduced to 3 hours
  • 16 hours reduced to 4 hours
We appreciate any feedback on how this affects your gameplay. Please drop a comment below if you’ve noticed an improvement or have any concerns with this change.

These short peace treaties are ridiculous. Feels to me BHG have done it to increase the attack pool, presumably so they can carry on peddling IR blessings. Started out an enjoyable game, then came the pay to win features (fair enough) but now it feels like it’s moving into the realms of pay to play. Personally I’d prefer for them to remove IR blessings from the game, or making them super rare. Bring back the enjoyment and stop with this nonsense please. Sure you can highlight the leaderboards feature, but you know this is in combination with instant retrain blessings, and god forbid you withdraw anything that eats into your profits. As it stands, I suspect leaderboards was primarily introduced so there would be more IR blessing purchases. You guys ought to stop, think and focus on retention of players rather than pushing folk away. This game is going downhill rapidly. Also, while I’m in a middle of a rant, this whole legendary chest gambling is stupid.
 

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This pretty much sums up BHG. You just don’t think about the implications of your actions. You use the community as your beta teasters and that that’s wrong. I mean how obvious was it (clearly not) that the new Triumph system would lead to Peace Treaties? People have researched extensions to Peace Treaties and now you’ve wiped that research out in one fell swoop, and for what? Oh yeah a ‘sticking plaster’ over yet another I’ll conceived addition to the game. I literally dread to think what other ‘surprises’ you have up your collective sleeves😔
 

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I agree with many of the above, the change really is detrimental to my gameplay, I should be able to sleep on one peace treaty. The whole scenario has come about due to bhg never reducing the build times so players can advance to higher ages more quickly leading to a constantly reducing high age pool of players. This has been raised repeatedly in the forum but never properly addressed. No doubt the small pool of level 340 plus players is the reason Drone age is dragging its feet on being introduced?

The rewards on offer for the triumph leagues mean nothing to me, I’ve played since early days, I’ve loot coming out of my ears so upgrade costs or reductions in price are meaningless. You want this triumph crapfest to mean something, offer time reductions. That’s the only positive suggestion I can make about this.

As the above comment also mentions, loot crates, bhg gambling, needs binning too. Promoting gambling is not a good look, I actually find myself stunned to write that I preferred the days of the $250 artifact.
 

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Leviathan would it be possible to implement a looted resource refund of 80%-90% until a more permanent resolution gets figured out. This will protect people who are just getting deflated. This resource will cause a lot of new players to give up. Should be easy to implement.
 

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Dear Devs, I'm speaking on behalf of all high Info age players who don't need the additional incentives or loot: before you implement a system like Triumph in the future, how about making sure it benefits the majority of players? (not us)
Also, before you try another something different to try and reduce the ripple effect of the reduced treaties that tried to reduce the ripple effect of a diminishing pool of players, can you please consider perhaps putting the Triumph system on hold and resuming all previous mechanics until you can come up with something that actually benefits most of the lower ages? We Info bases don't need rss! Sure, Triumph seemed to you to be a good motivator or incentive for players but it really only rewarded the very top & very active players.
So, rather than keep tweaking and changing and adding to the already ripple effect, just pause, set the previous status quo and, I don't know ... LISTEN TO THE PLAYERS AND READ THEIR COMMENTS!
 

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Absolute garbage of an idea.

spawn plenty of animals and make the trap blessing for 10 attacks as they’re getting chewed up overnight.

Pretty ordinary for regular players who aren’t able to live on the game all day, log on to find what resources you were building for the weekend discounts has been plundered endlessly.

Throw your triumph idea out the window.
 

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Expanding the attack pool would have been a less intrusive solution. The league system is outdated now and offers little meaning, so allow more medal ranges to attack each other. Reducing peace treaty lengths is okay although the changes were drastic; so a combination of these two solutions may have caused less chaos in the community e.g., expand attack pool and reduce peace treaty length by 50% or so.

That said, Loot Refund is even more important than before; personally I want to get attacked (so like this change) but understand most players don't do this strategy.
 

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Exactly correct. I posted this 2 years ago when I left the game. Back now as I was enjoying it. The barrier's to relevance and entry in the game is the biggest issue. The golden age blessing, should reduce upgrade times with greater impact.
Iron - enlightenment should be instant upgrades once looted, industrial - atomic - 75% rest 50% or something like this. More players in higher ages is better for the game and will lead to increased spending. Make it easier and faster for people to get higher ages.
 

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This is not the change anyone wants. Even if you do try to climb the leaderboards (For what? 10% cheaper walls and a bit more gold? Pathetic buffs in the first place) there's no way you'll be holding it for very long because if you go to sleep or to work or have to do anything besides be on the game, you get hit. Maybe twice, thrice, or more. The majority of the player base gets nothing from this season event. The entire player base is getting screwed by this change. If this is the direction the game goes, you're gonna have a new problem with people not being able to find opponents, because their opponents will have quit this game.
 

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Greetings Leaders,

Thank you to everyone who was able to share constructive feedback on the recent Peace Treaty change, this is incredibly valuable to us.

Our decision to shorten Peace Treaties was the quickest and simplest fix we could enact to resolve the larger issue of players unable to find multiplayer battles following the Leaderboards release. However, the impact on player experience, especially more defensive-minded players, is stronger than intended, as our primary goal was to address the matchmaking issues we were seeing.

We are working on a long-term solution to address the matchmaking issue as well as account for the feedback we have received around the Peace Treaty timer change and aim to implement these as soon as possible.

In the meantime, we will be adding a free offer for one of each Defensive Blessing from the Temple, which can be found in the Sales Window, as well as an extra chance at Defensive Blessings from Supply Crates to help alleviate some of the extra burden this has put on defenders.

We greatly appreciate the suggestions that are coming in. While many of these may not be technically feasible, or have other issues that keep them from being a viable solution, please continue to share your thoughts as we will continue to monitor and update in this thread.
 

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It’s ridiculous that the change was so dramatic. You’ve really turned up the p2w aspect as those with the crowns will crown their peace treaty. The quick compensation is also a joke because many players are getting attacked 6-7 times a day because of the shortened times and those blessings only work once. My other huge gripe is that my SA is only getting raised by info age players. Before the triumph event I never saw an info age base now my inbox defense records are all lvl 400+ info age players crushing my low SA age base. The times are reduced so much that players get attacked multiples times while they sleep.
 

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.. please continue to share your thoughts as we will continue to monitor and update in this thread.
Make the calculation of the Peace Treaty duration different for different Ages, calculate it according to the real number of rivals in each age group. The higher the Age, the smaller the group of players - the shorter the Peace Treaties.

..Our decision to shorten Peace Treaties was the quickest and simplest fix we could enact to resolve the larger issue of players unable to find multiplayer battles following the Leaderboards release.
Do you think your bad reputation has already reached the bottom? Perhaps it's time to add to the default properties of each new update a bonus 3000 crowns to each player for the inconvenience caused.
 
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Best solution imho is to give the players an option to withdraw from the Seasonal Leaderboards. So people who enjoy playing a lot for prices put them in a pool with each other with the reduced peacetimes.
Give other players an option to opt out from this ratrace and enjoy: the game, family life, night rest and social life. With the old Peace Times in place ofcourse
Thank you
 

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Peace treaty time decrease is the probably most idiotic idea implemented. Thanks to this, one third of our alliance quit the game. Hoping your revenue decreases to 30% soon too. Good luck and keep doing good job guys!
 

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What about eliminating both resources lost and peace treaties. Complete loot refund, this will open up full spectrum of bases, allow people who don't want to participate in this new leaderboard game don't have to. It's easy to implement and is fair for everyone.
 

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Since you are reading this thread, let me summarize things from my perspective (info age, very active player):

- the whole triumph idea is not bad and it is another way to give nice artifacts to the most active players BUT it was poorly implemented because:
  1. you didnt think about the diminishing number of bases available for loot
  2. you didnt think about the medals up and down. I have seen bases the first week with +1/39 and +39/-1 and now only +23/-16. Medaling down is a great pain.
  3. Since LRR is even more important now, the defence log bug(s) should have been fixed for good before the release of the seasonal leaderboard as it affects directly LRR values.
  4. Peace Treaties are a way to keep rss overnight intact for medium active players. By reducing them to 2-4-6 hours, you screwed them up big time.
  5. there are players that do not want to compete for the seasonal leaderboard. So, let them opt out of this madness. Create a button like for WW (IN/OUT)
- and since none of you plays this game as much as we do... here are some ideas that can help the game revive a bit:
  1. reduce TIME by 50% for all buildings/troop upgrades from industrial to cwa
  2. reduce TIME by 30% for all buildings/troop upgrades from sa to da
  3. reduce TIME by 15% for all buildings/troop upgrades for info age
  4. rebalance the nations so that we have more variety in all levels of play. Have you noticed that everyone is German?
  5. Fix all minor and major bugs. We've had enough of bugs the past 5 years. Enough is enough!!!
And last of all, please, for the love of god, we have told this numerous times.... There are many active players in Dominations Prime that are very knowledgeable and helpful. Create a group out of these guys and let them consult and beta test every new release. We can help. Let us do this!
 
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Dear All,
have 2 accounts one is Information Age and the reduction of peace treaty is not too challenging because new age is not here yet, however for my Atomic Age it’s impossible to save ressource and I cannot play 24/7, so I’m just attacking in war that it with this account.
at the beginning new leaderboard was a great idea, but after 2 weeks some solutions should be found rapidly, otherwise some players are going to quit again, it looks like same situation as couple of years ago when you introduced game balance who was a mess.
This game has a lot of potential please developers keep it as simple as possible. I started to play in 2015, I like this game and Dominations community great people playing, so correct it and launch new age
thanks
 
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