The TB nerf is coming...

[molfas]

Playing the french nation I should be disappointed with the nerfed training blessing. Well, I'm not! First of all, the combination of french and training blessing currently is so overpowered that it brings game balance down. Second, I'm optimistic that the no-opponent found problem will fade away (not for the Top 50, but maybe for the Top 500) simply because the french will make fewer attacks in the future, hence fewer players are under peace treaty.

 

[acied]

When do the top ranked players learn... ?

They are ahead in the game, so they can use these bad balanced combinations to their advantage...
As soon as they notice that others are using it too, they start complaining about it.

But by now, they should know how nexon works...they don't address the issue, they just punish everybody. (by all means, they punish the lower level players more then high level players by this action)


So what can we learn from all of this ?

Do not complaint about advantages you have used for weeks yourself and are now used by the majority of players, because, you just end up shooting yourself in the foot.

Nice going guys !!! All players now suffer from your whining about the french advantage with the TB.

So Lets stop whining about people using raiders to tear down your tc, lets stop whining about every tactic that is being used and seems successful, because if you do, nexon will nerf that tactic and the game becomes worse and worse.

A unexpected side effect of this nerf is that it will become harder to climb in medals, so the no opponent problem will not solve itself (by having more players with a high medal count)
Most likely, more people will quit, because now, any nation can do less attacks, meaning, less loot, less medals, less trade goods, slower progress.

Well done top ranking players, well done nexon.

PS, I'm actually very pleased they nerved the TB and NOT the french nation !

 

[Aurelius...]

Hey Eddie. It's in the update information that IronAngel posted. It said it would change from 70% to 60%. Though it also said it would be changed from 20 minutes to 40 minutes. Funny. I hope all numbers are wrong. Because if the TB was 77% and is changing to 60%, that would be bad. Also, since it's currently 30 minutes, I hope the time increase isn't only to 40 minutes...

 

[Aurelius...]

Ah. Very good. Thanks, Magnifico. So, in the future it will be 66%, assuming completion of the Zeal research.

 

[Aurelius...]

Thank you IronAngel. Your response is greatly appreciated.

 

[Aurelius...]

Well said, HK. It's important to note that we really have aligned interests with Nexon/BHG. We all want more players to play. And frankly, I'm okay with them making a killing. Torturing me, for more money, though, isn't going to help. People will play the game if it's fun, and they won't if it's not. Some people will spend money, if they can afford to, and if they perceive value in the available offerings.

 

[Aurelius...]

I agree with you Nathan. The nature of the forum, though, is that people will post about things that currently interest or concern them. Some of those posts gain traction, and some don't. Your point, which is that we should be careful to push for buffs and also major important changes, makes sense to me. Let's work on +1/-39 first...

 

[Nathan Win]

Yes, it's very apparent that BHG doesn't know how to balance game. Their first instinct is to nerf and make things more expensive (more diamonds/oil). It's getting ridiculous since certain resources is hard to obtain.

 

[dbukalski]

When do the top ranked players learn... ?

They are ahead in the game, so they can use these bad balanced combinations to their advantage...
As soon as they notice that others are using it too, they start complaining about it.

Do not complaint about advantages you have used for weeks yourself and are now used by the majority of players, because, you just end up shooting yourself in the foot.

Well done top ranking players, well done nexon. !

Newbs are hilarious. U think its top ranked players that brought the tb nerf? Top ranked players been playing french + tb back when that meant INSTANT army rebuild. U didnt hear anything about that from top players

Nexon nerfed it without people crying first

After the nerf redgar found out about french + tb = 50 second army rebuild and started a campaign to have to changed. That included emails to bhg/nexon and many topics started.

Of course he was correct that it needed nerfed. But he was neither a top player. Nor was he using the french + tb for months or weeks before complaining. He was complaining when he was british. And he was complaining after reluctantly switching to the french. In the process all the other players started to catch on.

Top players use game imbalances and keep quiet about it. If that means pure roman infantey, pure heavy cav, raider sniping...other stuff.

Its when the newbs learn about it that the crying starts and the nerfs happen. Assuming bhg doesnt just nerf something based on metrics they track

Your barking up the wrong tree like puppy newbs always do. 2 steps behind what the top players have been doing.

 

[molfas]

You certainly are a top player, dbuk, but I don't like that attitude to quietly exploit game imbalances to gain an adavantage. Isn't that rather boring and dissatisfying?

 

[MadFury]

Yes acied you are absolutely correct. Although it wasn't necessarily top ranked played. More specifically it's was dbukalski and his little group of forum raiders crying for a "French nerf" that earned all of us a TB nerf instead. As a result we all got shot in the foot and are about to have it amputated come the update. While we're on the subject I'm glad IronAngle was finally able to give out the official math behind the tb+French bonus, which is exactly as I said before. Now dbukalski can take his well earned math lesson. Lol

 

[dbukalski]

You certainly are a top player, dbuk, but I don't like that attitude to quietly exploit game imbalances to gain an adavantage. Isn't that rather boring and dissatisfying?

Its not an attitude. Its a game. Im playing the game at the most efficient option. Im not obligated to share what ive figured out so that everyone can have same benefit as me handed to them. No one lead me by the hand to what i do.

Bhg creates the unit stats. I use the units they create. If one unit has the best stats then ill use that. If other people dont see that a unit has the best stats because their blinded by a moral soap box about using mixed armies thats on them. As long as their having fun...of even if their not. Its not in my best interest to point a spot light at everything thats an advantage for me.

But that wasnt the focus. The focus was on the ridiculous claim that its top players crying about unbalanced features. Top players use unbalanced, op features and play the game without crying.

Once the french tb issue was out in the open though it was ridiculous to have people say there was nothing wrong. So yes at that point being realistic it was time to admit french were op.

 

[dbukalski]

Yes acied you are absolutely correct. Although it wasn't necessarily top ranked played. More specifically it's was dbukalski and his little group of forum raiders crying for a "French nerf" that earned all of us a TB nerf instead. As a result we all got shot in the foot and are about to have it amputated come the update. While we're on the subject I'm glad IronAngle was finally able to give out the official math behind the tb+French bonus, which is exactly as I said before. Now dbukalski can take his well earned math lesson. Lol

Simmer down winnie the pooh lol

Ull never understand the math i tried to explain to u. And so ull always be a second string player. Bhg confirmed months ago how the math works. And they just showed its not changing. Its not my fault u dont understand how french trained 7x faster than other nations

But u are right. I wish i hadnt dropped hints about the french which turned into a frenzy of complaining and many players switched to france. Would have been better for me to keep totally silent. Everyone playing romans and just a few in the know players as french

U should thank redgar for his zeal to balance the game. Otherwise most people on here wouldnt know the french power and id have a few more months of extra fast looting. U attack ur savior

Ur just pissed of because just as u clued in to whats happening it got nerfed.

Redgars not playing anymore so no more balance zealots to tip the hand. Just top players and their sweet sweet secrets that we dont cry about

Ur talking amputated leg. Im talking 5-7mil /hr still after the nerf. Newb meets top player

 

[Tickling]

Delusional grandiosity aside...

Redgar's not playing any more??

 

[Aussie guy]

Changes to the training blessing will yet again impact negatively on non-cheating players. At the moment I enjoy a 30 minute burst of raiding via the TB, which is long enough for me to distribute my 5 tactics amongst my raids and use 1 or 2 merc armies, an airplane, and the odd attack blessing. After 30 minutes, I would need to use crowns to get those tactics, which take ages to make, or to put together new merc armies, or to get extra blessings. Playing longer with a 60 hour blessing will mean you either do more attacks without the extras like mercs and tactics, or you top them up with crowns.

Personally, I like to raid for 30 minutes and put this game down, have a break and do other stuff. Playing for hours is something I've only ever done to grind out resources for a major upgrade. 60 minute training blessings won't suit my gameplay, and I don't won't to change the way I play. If the game doesn't fit in with what I want...which is fun...then it's time to move on.

It's a cash grab guys...the longer you play on a training blessing the more you will be tempted to top things up with crowns. Of course, if you hack crowns, it's no big deal.

 

[Porcupine]

Old MadFury had a farm
E - I - E - I - O...

 

[Aussie guy]

Just to balance your comments...Bamboo COC posted YouTube videos months ago showing the power of French nation retraining under a training blessing. He got thousands of views...a lot more than the 20 or so players who seem to post continuously on these censored forums.

 

[dbukalski]

Im also not a fan of 1 hr blessing. 30 min spurts is better.

Im aware of bamboo. It took him a long time to catch on to raider sniping as french. Him and the people that caught on from him and forum were late to the party. u think theres 20 people that get their info from here? Ok

It took people long enough to catch onto a one unit strat. So whats coming next will separate the men from the boys for longer

I saw the snowball effect dont intend for that to happen again

 

[Crimsondragonfly]

Raider sniping? I don't think he did that. He did TC sniping. Unless this was some privaate convo because I watched all his videos and was definitely influenced by his videos to switch to French because of the HH

 

[Walking Demon !]

dont nerf the Training Blessing! without it, the game will be so boring ! keep your player , dear BHG