“The Road to Better World War Matchmaking” aka Sandbagging!

[JahWerx]

Not really - if you had a war of 40: Say 23 Max Atomic, and 17 Iron... the top 2/3 of the alliance represents the top 26 bases. Yes THREE irons would be factored into the average, however it would weigh MUCH MORE heavily to the Atomic side than Iron side. In this example, the score for Alliance would still be VERY HIGH, and they wouldn't get paired with a fairplay alliance that might have Some Atomics, More Globals, and many Industrials... etc.

 

[Bowmore]

Nexon = honey badgers.... they don't give a you-know-what

 

[Vixen]

I agree on only using the top 2/3rds...

 

[Riyad604]

Totally witnessing the quitting happening. Good, fun, knowledgeable players quitting due to horribad customer service and a complete lack of communication and unwillingness to just adjust the system already. FFS it's not like there has been ample suggestions from the community to fix the stalemate/sandbagging epidemic...

 

[Tenacious D]

I agree that this is a huge mismatch and should be fixed. But you mixed alliance sandbaggers do the same thing when you match a team that is almost all global with some IA. They can't touch your top bases and the attacks of your EA/gunpowder, etc sandbags are not needed. Those weak players have done their job by getting you a war opponent who has no chance. Small wonder they seem disinterested in war. They got matched with a sandbag alliance. Let's fix the real problem -- mixed alliance sandbaggers.

 

[Vixen]

so let me understand this... you think that alliances should not have any spread? Shred has always enjoyed the fact that we welcome new accounts and help them grow to an age they can war - usually gunpowder. They are an important part of our team. I know lots and lots of alliances like this. You think that we should only play with players all at the same level? So rather than grow organically we should just poach other players?

 

[S_How]

Hi TD Your example has never happened in any match we've ever had lol. Every team except for about 15 in the game (who are high atomic) have a mix of ages. The matchmaking does ok with it, too. Never in ~200 wars have I seen only 2-3 ages in a war like you describe. Its a made up argument for you to protect undeveloped base sandbagging hehe. I will admit, you do a nice job getting your idea out there though!

 

[Tenacious D]

Of course you do Vixen. You guys are the ultimate sandbaggers. You get matched against opponents with less spread and you win every war. But since the glory system was announced you run the risk of matching a strong alliance that also diluted down. When it is sandbag against sandbag, you lose because you don't have good attackers. Nexon can't fix that unfortunately.

 

[Vixen]

Tenny d... enjoy your day !!! You are just not worth responding to.

 

[Tenacious D]

I have a more elegant solution. Most of the top alliances have managed to work their way back to the top of the leaderboards. But they displaced the mixed alliance sandbaggers in the process. Now these not so good alliances -- in many cases truly bad alliances -- are crying foul. Solution? Nexon should allow 200 teams into the Top 100. And if this still leaves The Shreds, Active Warfares, and Hobbits on the outside looking in, add another 100 teams. Problem solved.

 

[Wendy]

again, it would only cause mismatches.

 

[Tenacious D]

Creating an illicit war matching system to match weak teams against weak teams as an end run around the glory system isn't working. They still aren't getting ranked. So perhaps it is time for a fresh approach?

 

[DynoBot]

I agree. I would like to see leaderboard include another 100 teams then maybe the whiners would be happy. The top teams are represented quite accurately with current leaderboard and constantly calling teams out for playing by the RULES is ridiculous. The top teams asked for everyone to direct efforts to find a solution to stalemating when using baby acts was not wide spread. Instead the whiners went after sandbagging and NEXON addressed it for them. Result: Stalemates are still killing the game, Sandbagging is wide spread and the Whiners are well..... STILL WHINING. Great insight you BIG BABYS In general the ACTUAL player base do not have a problem with using baby acts (only teams with no attacking skills), it is just the loud whiners here. In Korea, Sandbags are a non-issue as they have the intelligence to recognize it is necessary, since top alliances are not going to battle each other, use up resources, waiting to match a handful of teams, wasting time for 0 glory. Operation Whiners have a good idea to host their own CryBabyBowl in honour of this years Super Bowl. That way when they beat other whiners they can feed their EGO's.

 

[Vixen]

*hugs* .....

 

[Christopher-Outlaws!!]

Hugs :'(

https://discord.gg/YFmATFn

 

[DynoBot]

https://goo.gl/images/1L7ccC

 

[poop_]

I don't want the passerby reader to assume that *hugs* means *like*.

It doesn't.

Trolls who distract a valid complaint by calling people whiners are clearly on NEXON's payroll. (If you don't know what post I am referring to, maybe someone can provide a link for me.)

Condescending players (who may be trying to make up for their own failings in life) by badmouthing alliances that have players that aren't atomic are just fooling themselves. They are insecure people who have found a game where they "outrank" others and have taken the opportunity to bully as opposed to teach, encourage, and work together.

Ultimately, the world is worse off when we accept/ignore this behavior.

What is the point? There is none.

I will taunt these trolls with hugs and friendship bracelets, but ultimately, they distract us from the real issues. AND, most players can agree there are REAL issues, whether you think it is cheating, sandbagging, stalemates, glitches, or something else I didn't name.

I really think it is time to ignore these purple haired buffoons and do something about it.



**BTW, I am not criticizing Chris or Vixen for hugging the troll. They are both awesome people, who care about the game and the future of it. So awesome that they would even hug a troll.

 

[aquawind]

Tenacious D, extending the Top Alliances ranking board does not solve the issue of sandbagging, if it ever would work, we might as well extend it to show all alliances; but no...it doesn't work this way.

DynoBot, no. Most of the issues(including sandbagging) that has been brought up here has also been brought up in the various official(or semi-official) pages/forums of DomiNations from the Asia side.
The issue of sandbagging, have been affecting many alliances in various degrees. Some genuine alliances realized that they have no chance of winning those sandbagging alliances, resulting in some of them joining in to use sandbagging as a "tactical means" to win, while others who attempt to stay clean are quitting the game eventually, and the cycle continues, resulting in a snow ball effect making the issue worse.

 

[poop_]

@tenny d, funny how your alliance is one of most despicable lying sandbaggers out there.

Don't distract the issue here. Go back to your hole.

If you are a passerby: Tenny D belongs to an alliance that sandbagged it's way to the top, claimed to stop sandbagging, and then was caught red handed.

'Nough said.

Anyone who wants to associate with this fool is an even bigger fool.

Tenny D, you and I are done. The love is gone because you are a soulless empty shell. You have no point with your posts. You accomplish nothing except maybe you get off on trying to piss people off. Go jerk off elsewhere. This is not the place for that. Sicko.

And, yes, please cry to the moderator on this one.

 

[Tenacious D]

''Hugs''