Guess Which Civilization Just Got Even Worse?

Magnifico

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I am one of the few Empire League players bloody-minded, or just plain stupid, enough to persist in playing Greeks. Their flaws are well-known, so they are a deservedly unpopular choice (except apparently among patriotic real-life Greeks). But rather than try to address these shortcomings somehow, the design team has, amazingly, found a way to make the Greeks suck even harder with the 4.1 update.

Players will now be able to "Collect 8 new National Trade Goods by defeating different Nations in multiplayer battle!" I don't think I'm going too far out on a limb in predicting that the goods from civilizations like the British and French are going to be relatively easy to find. Trade goods from less popular civilizations are going to be rarer, especially in the higher medal ranges where power players tend to congregate. Now, the players who will be most interested in acquiring national trade goods will be serious world warriors, players who are experts at 5-starring. So Greeks, by virtue of their very unpopularity, are going to be targets of choice for highly-skilled, highly-motivated attackers. Greeks can expect fewer attacks that just snipe the town center and then quit and more everything-but-the-kitchen-sink 5-star attempts.

I don't know if the design team deliberately set up incentives to pick on the unpopular civilizations in order to encourage people to spend crowns changing, or if they just didn't think things through. Either way, it seems like this update kicks the civilizations that were already suboptimal when they're down.
 

Funks

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this is all too much for me, my brain is going to melt from my anxiety at not being able to do the patch yet!

("patriotic real-life Greeks " hahaha)
 

Radzeer

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The Scrolls trade good can be acquired only by defeating Greeks. Scrolls are required to get the most meaningful Attacking Coalition with the Aztecs. Happy hunting.... I'm getting a Greek opponent in multiplayer like 1 in 20...
 

BV123

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I applaud you magnifico for sticking with the Greeks that long. But the way the Greeks are at this current state, they are not really viable so advance in the game.

I had stuck with Greek all the way to early IA. Then I got fed up with their almost non existing boost. The only thing good at that stage is their tanks.

My advice is, switch your nation. I see no way to make the Greeks work after reaching IA. When I switched, it was the best 600 crowns I ever spend in the game.

Ps: If you made it this far with the Greeks....imagine how much better you will do with some of the other top nations out there.
 

Ravenlord

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Greeks can expect fewer attacks that just snipe the town center and then quit and more everything-but-the-kitchen-sink 5-star attempts.
I thought these goods are only achievable during ''wars'' - at least that's what the embassy icon leads me to believe. I would imagine that, because they're used to improve your war attacks/defense that you can only get them in war attacks.
 

Toast

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I thought these goods are only achievable during ''wars'' - at least that's what the embassy icon leads me to believe. I would imagine that, because they're used to improve your war attacks/defense that you can only get them in war attacks.


Nope, you'll get the nation specific trade goods from simply attacking them and getting over 3 stars. The embassy coalitions however are only active during wars.
 

JMoney

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I've always thought it would be nice if by "better architecture" as their nation is labelled meant that their buildings and walls had more hp than other nations. They really need that sort of defensive boost now too considering they'll be the eye of any attacker looking for their national trade good. Atleast poor old Japan gets the longer peace treaty as a bone toss in terms of "defensive" bonus. Japan and especially the Greek nations really need some love.

Greeks have a tiny-bonus to generals too. Would be nice if they amped that up for them, like say giving Generals under Greek nation a % buff. The first general in the game after all is Alexander the Great.
 
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Tsamu

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Did you notice the "Price changes in" box at the top left of the embassy screen? Even if scrolls are desirable now, they might not be in 5 days. I think that was a smart move.
 

Ravenlord

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Then where are they? I've had 4 x 5star wins tonight and l cant find these goodies.
 

Hong Kong Army®

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yes...they change over time depending on the demand & supply of the market as a whole i guess

So u can imagine the cost of coalitions requiring timber from British or cheese from french will rise!
 

Max_imus

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The Scrolls trade good can be acquired only by defeating Greeks. Scrolls are required to get the most meaningful Attacking Coalition with the Aztecs. Happy hunting.... I'm getting a Greek opponent in multiplayer like 1 in 20...
yep,RIP for greek players
 

Toast

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I don't think it's a guarantee that you'll get them. I believe it's a chance.
 

Tsamu

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I think the price changes will be used by Nexon to balance the game. If they use supply and demand scrolls will always be needed for the Aztecs.
 

danron1376

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I thought these goods are only achievable during ''wars'' - at least that's what the embassy icon leads me to believe. I would imagine that, because they're used to improve your war attacks/defense that you can only get them in war attacks.

i got my first coalition good in my first battle...yummy cheese from the french
 

danron1376

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I applaud you magnifico for sticking with the Greeks that long. But the way the Greeks are at this current state, they are not really viable so advance in the game.

I had stuck with Greek all the way to early IA. Then I got fed up with their almost non existing boost. The only thing good at that stage is their tanks.

My advice is, switch your nation. I see no way to make the Greeks work after reaching IA. When I switched, it was the best 600 crowns I ever spend in the game.

Ps: If you made it this far with the Greeks....imagine how much better you will do with some of the other top nations out there.

which nation did you switch to? i am greek as well but thinking of changing
 

The Huns

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That was my first thought when I saw how it worked. Glad I'm not Chinese, Japanese, or Greek.
 
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