New Nation: Spain

FroggyKilla

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The names may be kinda terrible (for Classical to Enlightenment Age), but I think we're ready for one of the most famous nations in European history. That and Russia.
Here are my reasons for Spain to be implemented:
They have been known for their First Wave Colonies. They also had a sizable navy until England crushed it though. However, the Conquistador knights were very powerful and were land owners. They also manage to destroy and army many times their size (of course with a help of plagues). They also had the leadership of the mighty Charles V during the Gunpowder Age. However, they showed many signs of decline because of overspending and lack of economic development as they relied too much upon their colonies for revenue. They were also very devout Catholics, and that shaped history more than anything else Spain had done.
Their Uniques
Unique Ability (Colonies and Religion)
To reflect upon their imperial achievements during the Gunpowder Age, and their religion:

League Boat arrives 12h earlier and provides +1 trade good, Domination Loot Bonuses: 20%
This general term refers to the League Loot, Destroy all Food, Destroy All Gold, and Destroy all Oil buildings bonuses. This for the ease of speaking and it compacts the amount of text put into a Nation screen.
Grants Free Blessing: Once weekly

Unique Unit: Conquistador (+10% Health and DPS, -1 Troop Space, Moves Faster)
The Spanish conquistadors were light cavalry. Their armor was limited to chainmail, a steel breastplate, and a steel helmet. Due to the warm climates the Spanish were in as they were in the Mediterranean, and the warmer climates of South and Central America, heavy armor was impractical for the Spanish military. However, they had incredible mobility.
-Iron Age: Conquistador
-Classical Age: Veteran Conquistador
-Medieval Age: Expert Conquistador
-Gunpowder Age: Master Conquistador
-Enlightenment Age: Grand Conquistador
Spanish-born tanks were rarely seen in combat outside of testing. The prototypes of these tanks had performed well during testing although the tank programs were getting canceled. The Trubia A4 prototype tank was created as an improvement to the Renault FT they procured from the French. Eventually the Republican Forces of the Spanish Civil War created the Trubia Naval, which saw use in the Spanish Civil War (needless to say the Trubia A4 was also used during this war as well). The first to get mass-produced was the AMX-30E, an improvement to the French AMX-30 light tank.
-Industrial Age: Trubia Naval
-Global Age: Verdeja 2
-Atomic Age: AMX-30E
-Space Age: Leopard 2E

I hope you all will like this suggestions as much as I do.
 
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FroggyKilla

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Sorry to bring this back up from the dead (you can call me Jesus Christ if you so desire).
 

Morality

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This might be a futile argument, but this nation's play style would be very similar to that of the British. You attack and attack to win loot. But since you alleviated this problem by increasing the bonus from All-Food/Gold/Oil Buildings Destroyed, this is not a huge problem.

I have a problem with your unique. -20% troop space seems quite fishy, but who knows. I could be wrong as cavalry take a high space during the early game, and eventually the late game with the tanks. Maybe since you seem to like using cavalry to attack resource buildings. But there should be a 40% stat boost limit, or 30% stat boost and something unique. I could be wrong as the Trubia A4 from my Google search seems quite compact, and that can justify the reduced troop space.

If this nation is to be picked, it's gonna be for its unique unit, and that's not a solid reason to pick a nation let alone implement it into the game. Hate to break this to you, but I'm not going to risk adding another nation that may be a very bad pick (though the Conquistador has better value than the Companion Cavalry). Speaking of which, Greece also needs a buff. That stat change definitely screwed Greece over. +10% for a unique unit is a joke in my opinion.
 

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Well shoot Morality, the entire objective of the game revolves around attacking. But Spain can put in less effort in pillaging bases to get the extra league bonus; however, that juxtaposes with the destroy all nature to getting the All Food/Oil/Gold Buildings destroyed bonus. I may have to agree with you that their passive is flawed. But this is DomiNations, I can easily make an effort to 4-5 star bases.

What could I do that would make Spain more unique in the regards to a good pick?
 

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I was thinking since the Spanish were very devout religiously, might I suggest a reduction in trade good costs for Blessings? I can't be exact here as some blessings only cost a measly 1 diamond or 2 leather.
 

FroggyKilla

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That might be a good idea. Though with popular blessings such as Training Blessing/Tactics Blessing, people might start to pick Spain over any other nation the most. I don't really want that, but a decent amount of players should be attracted to a nation's bonus to switch or any new players to pick.
 

Morality

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How about a free blessing twice a week? Every Tuesday and Saturday sound good?
 

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Once a week is fine. It helps to conserve a lot of trade good in the case you get a Tactics Blessing or a Training Blessing.
 

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Sorry you cant have this its offensive.

Can't have nice things in the world everyone finds them offensive. If the general population keeps acting like this in 20 years there won't be any games based on history.
 
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Morality

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Sorry you cant have this its offensive.

Can't have nice things in the world everyone finds them offensive. If the general population keeps acting like this in 20 years there won't be any games based on history.

Is something the matter? Because this thread was mainly proactive in evolving this nation.
 

FroggyKilla

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Spain literally shaped history for the other part of the world. I don't know why they weren't added in the first place. Unless they didn't have the means of research.
 

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Edited the OP because I felt obliged to do more research on Spain's tank programs. The tank programs that Spain goes through has gotten cancelled before these tanks received any combat that it appears. I could switch the unique from Heavy Cavalry to Assault Infantry, though.
 

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It was a joke morality lol. But I would like this

Alright then. Sorry for the late response though.

Anyways, I might have a problem with mere prototype tanks being the unique. Needless to say the Greeks don't have a unique tank of their own. I think this idea would work great then.
 

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Yeah... I actually find a bit offensive we Spanish aren't represented! :p

I know we haven't important for quite a time, that we had almost no role in both the world wars... But as the OP explained, we had our moment in History, when we were determinant, as other European nations included in the game have had theirs, we could argue maybe pointless who have been more important, but the discovery of America doesn't seem minor to me, much of what came later, was only possible because of that, the United States of America, would have been born if not? The industrial age etc. Of course America would have been "discovered" anyway possibly, just later, but that would have been a significant delay in human history, equivalent to Newton never being born (for me the greatest bump to our history and progress... Newton lol).

Anyways, only saying that, that I support the OP and Spain should be in the nations pool! Lol.
 

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The problem is probably I'm thinking, that Spain is mostly a Gunpowder Age nation, isn't it really that we were too important in Classical Age like Rome or Greece were, we started to be important and a nation really in the later middle ages, there were wars between Arabs and the Catholics, and eventually the Spain Kingdom was born, and then the discovery or conquest whatever of America, give us the lead for a centuries over the other main Europeans nations of the epoch, say France England Netherlands and Portugal. That is the equivalent to Gunpowder Age here, but for what says here Enlighment Age, when US are born, the French Revolution, beginning of Industrial Rev, etc, we weren't already that important, and to be honest we did not really make any relevant contribution as other nations did in Science and Tech... Then the war vs the US and the lost of last colonies, we have not been a nation too much relevant for centuries now... Same problem poor Greek people seems to have, but adition of Greece is totally mandatory, for their Classical past.

But adition of Spain then, a mostly Gunpowder Age nation, and another European nation, I don't think it goes along with what the devs have in mind... They will add WW2-Cold War-Modernity related nations, and the obvious two missing are Russia and the United States, if they call them Americans, they could make South America maybe included for the earlier ages, although really not much in common between that and Modern USA, only started in Enlighment Age...

Then, if they want to expand market, they really need an Arabic nation as well, or the India. The India has enough past history, between Arabic Nations, the obvious pick for me seems Iran (Persia, history through all the ages (actually I also think this nation should have been in since the beginning...) or Turkey, Otoman Empire... Egypt could be, but I think it's focus it's also too restricted to classical Age, the other two keep being important as of today...

And maybe another asiatic nation, if we consider the India asiatic, ok that, if not, the obvious pic is Mongolia, Genghis Khan... Lol. But their aim also very restrict to Middle Age... They haven't do that much since...

So difficult lol, thinking it objectively, I don't see a reason why adding now Spain should and will be priorised over that others (assuming Russia and US are yes or yes next two) like Iran Turkey or India.

In the end they will make what they think it's more profitable for market, and I think they will add it within time, I don't think they will add like 4 nations in a row...

PD: You chose the same UU like Age of Empires ^^ Conquerors for Spanish, seems to be the Standard...
 
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