We are in the Auto Age how about adding Russia and USA to Dominations

[Seek]

Here we are at auto age and still have not introduced Russia and USA to game.

Would love to try out my home country. No British is not the same nor is China to Russia. It’s time

 

[Riku]

Regarding the issue about adding new nations, maybe BHG could add something like "emerging nations" that were accessible from an "old nation" such as USA from Britain. They could share some perks too, and rebalance the current ones ofc.

 

[ZenDen]

Regarding the issue about adding new nations, maybe BHG could add something like "emerging nations" that were accessible from an "old nation" such as USA from Britain. They could share some perks too, and rebalance the current ones ofc.

Is there something wrong with the existing balance? I think everything is fine.

 

[King Crimson]

This game is about old nations going through ages until the present. USA have just existed for 200 years so it's nonsense to exist here.

200yrs? Sure you're not thinking of Australia?

 

[Seek]

In general, I agree, but in recent history the United States has had a weighty significance for the whole World, although it has shown itself mainly as “cowboys”. Even in this game, 2 entire Wonders of the World are already dedicated to them - the Statue of Liberty and the Pentagon.

Well last time I check thats even more reason to have actual USA lol but America has load of influence on the since WW2. Plus been at war in one place or another since we started lol plus for every person in USA we have 4 or more guns lol

We past Space Age long time ago and Russia was first to space with a man USA first to land on moon. We did this in the 60s and 70s
Russia biggest country ( counting Russian territories)
USA next

Germany is the size of Ohio
Take I 10 for 12.5 hours just to drive across Texas Alaska is bigger lol)

As for impact on history lol since 1776 USA been influenced the world like Roman Empire British Empire Mongol Empire.

So your old country’s are slacking compared to our history lol hence why we are a superpower country 248 year history since we kicked the king out lol

 

[ZenDen]

Well last time I check thats even more reason to have actual USA lol but America has load of influence on the since WW2. Plus been at war in one place or another since we started lol plus for every person in USA we have 4 or more guns lol

We past Space Age long time ago and Russia was first to space with a man USA first to land on moon. We did this in the 60s and 70s
Russia biggest country ( counting Russian territories)
USA next

Germany is the size of Ohio
Take I 10 for 12.5 hours just to drive across Texas Alaska is bigger lol)

As for impact on history lol since 1776 USA been influenced the world like Roman Empire British Empire Mongol Empire.

So your old country’s are slacking compared to our history lol hence why we are a superpower country 248 year history since we kicked the king out lol

Is the USA a superpower, an empire? A very controversial issue.
Let's go in order.
America had influence since the Second World War only because it sponsored this very war, and on both sides - the United States made very good money on this, which allowed it to crawl out of the terrible economic crisis in which they were in the 20s-30s years of the 20th century. Until this time, nothing had been heard about the United States in the world. It is justified to talk about approximately 70-80 years of your known history, but not about 248 years from the date of foundation.
You continue to incite wars around the world, hoping to make money from them. Your entire army is just big business. But the fact is that in your entire history you have not won a single war. Do you know how to fight and win? Your population is armed "to the teeth" - is this your advantage? As just you were cowboys, you still are.
Your moon landing is still a controversial issue - there is still no confirmation. We will know for sure when someone again arrives at the place where your astronauts supposedly landed. Your rockets fly on Russian-made engines. In general, we haven’t heard of you flying into space for a long time, with the exception of Elon Musk’s experiments.
A superpower that has over 34 trillion dollars in national debt? Yes, you are simply living on credit, at someone else’s expense, your entire economy is built on subsidies. Any business could develop successfully and beautifully if money were constantly invested in it which it itself did not earn. Your only amazing economic invention is the dollar - the whole world conducts transactions in it, and you receive interest on every transaction - but this is also the greatest deception of the whole world.
If you survive at least until your 300th anniversary within the borders in which you now exist, and with the same structure in the country, with the same name of the country, then we can pay attention to you.
But now you still are not a superpower, no.

 

[King Crimson]

And here we go ....

 

[Kenn1h]

USA currently has 7 wonders and also a coalition , which is 5 more than the countries with the next most. Russia has 2 wonders and a coalition. So they are both represented well in the game.
Also both countries were non-existing for the first handfull of ages, so it doesn't make much sense to start out as these.
So it would require some kind of discrimination between new and old nations if modern nations were included.

 

[ZenDen]

USA currently has 7 wonders and also a coalition , which is 5 more than the countries with the next most. Russia has 2 wonders and a coalition. So they are both represented well in the game.
Also both countries were non-existing for the first handfull of ages, so it doesn't make much sense to start out as these.
So it would require some kind of discrimination between new and old nations if modern nations were included.

Tell me please, what kind of mysterious times you are talking about, when Britain, France, Germany (present as nations in the game) already existed, but there was no Ancient Rus'?

 

[ZenDen]

USA currently has 7 wonders and also a coalition , which is 5 more than the countries with the next most. Russia has 2 wonders and a coalition. So they are both represented well in the game.
Also both countries were non-existing for the first handfull of ages, so it doesn't make much sense to start out as these.
So it would require some kind of discrimination between new and old nations if modern nations were included.

I agree that Russia is very well represented in the game in the form of the Wonder of the World - Kremlin, which gives a characteristic advantage for this country - a defending people. Quite a significant advantage. If could add at least the Russian tricolor (national country flag) to the coats of arms of the alliances to select as coat of arm for aliance, it would be very cool.
In general, it's a sin for USA to complain - the Wonders of the World related to them provide, I would even say, excessive advantages for aviation. It is likely that this is not enough for the USA, and they would like to actually be present as a nation in the game, who knows. Here is a discussion about this.

 

[Seek]

And here we go ....

Oh I knew it would when I suggested cause everybody loves to knock on the USA and Russia it’s all good. Funny calling us cowboys is not insult to us cause we don’t care lol
Most hated but still can’t deny USA influences the world good or bad.

As for trying to say this or that about USA wars etc look at countries on the list they have done great things and bad things as well. In the end though USA and Russia should have been on list from start.

 

[ZenDen]

Oh I knew it would when I suggested cause everybody loves to knock on the USA and Russia it’s all good. Funny calling us cowboys is not insult to us cause we don’t care lol
Most hated but still can’t deny USA influences the world good or bad.

As for trying to say this or that about USA wars etc look at countries on the list they have done great things and bad things as well. In the end though USA and Russia should have been on list from start.

Such “elders” as Britain, France and Germany will under no circumstances allow either the USA and/or Russia into their list, because: 1. The USA is too young for them, and 2. Russia is not at all worthy to be there near to these greats, simply by definition

 

[Seek]

Actually if not for USA and Russia they would be under Germany lol ( don’t get me start with Hitler )
As for France best way to make them surrender is simply to declare war lol
Brits held stiff but what’s up all crap Diana and Kate lol
Now moving to Asia Humm Korea would be part of China, Etc etc lol

Facts are this we all love our countries hopefully and proud. We need to remember most important part, we all part this thing called the Human Race lol We all bleed red lol

 

[ZenDen]

And here we go ....

In the process, it's a bummer - there was no brawl happened - popcorn was of no use. We're all reasonable people here, it seems to me, and it pleases.

 

[ZenDen]

Actually if not for USA and Russia they would be under Germany lol ( don’t get me start with Hitler )
As for France best way to make them surrender is simply to declare war lol
Brits held stiff but what’s up all crap Diana and Kate lol
Now moving to Asia Humm Korea would be part of China, Etc etc lol

Facts are this we all love our countries hopefully and proud. We need to remember most important part, we all part this thing called the Human Race lol We all bleed red lol

"Actually if not for USA and Russia they would be under Germany"
"As for France best way to make them surrender is simply to declare war"

 

[ZenDen]

Oh I knew it would when I suggested cause everybody loves to knock on the USA and Russia it’s all good. Funny calling us cowboys is not insult to us cause we don’t care lol
Most hated but still can’t deny USA influences the world good or bad.

As for trying to say this or that about USA wars etc look at countries on the list they have done great things and bad things as well. In the end though USA and Russia should have been on list from start.

"Funny calling us cowboys is not insult to us cause we don’t care lol"
I wasn’t trying to offend you and wasn't trying to insult you. But this comparison is that a cowboy is not an army or warriors. Only in this sense.

 

[King Crimson]

In the process, it's a bummer - there was no brawl happened - popcorn was of no use. We're all reasonable people here, it seems to me, and it pleases.

Yeah I know ..... what the hell happened?

 

[Seek]

Yeah I know ..... what the hell happened?

Facts where spewed and stretched lol Doo Doo was talked about all country all government sucks one way or another lol

End all be all All Government in any form have issues but it’s fact Russia and USA need to be added should have been here since at least since Industrial Age. The other fact Seek is awesome lol

 

[King Crimson]

The other fact Seek is awesome lol

Must be from Wikifacts.com ...

 

[Kenn1h]

Tell me please, what kind of mysterious times you are talking about, when Britain, France, Germany (present as nations in the game) already existed, but there was no Ancient Rus'?

According to Wikipedia the rus state was established in the 9th century, which I guess correspond to the medieval age (age VI).
That was my main point.
But I agree it can be debated when the british, francs and germans could be considered a nation.
Currently I guess it would be quite controversial to include russia in the game, taking the realworld geopolitical situation into account.

 

[ZenDen]

According to Wikipedia the rus state was established in the 9th century, which I guess correspond to the medieval age (age VI).
That was my main point.
But I agree it can be debated when the british, francs and germans could be considered a nation.
Currently I guess it would be quite controversial to include russia in the game, taking the realworld geopolitical situation into account.

What does geopolitics have to do with it, pray tell? Yes, now collective West are trying to portray Russia to the whole world as an aggressor and invader. But West themselves never waged wars of conquest, did not have colonies, are they white and fluffy? The truth is that the entire collective West is losing to Russia, which is why it is angry in despair.
But how should this affect the game? This game is just a game, it’s a separate world altogether, hopefully very far from geopolitics. For that matter, the game already contains the Russian language.
The game already features nations that have a rather dark past, and this does not bother anyone.
Just add at least the Russian flag to choose as the coat of arms of the alliance, the Russians will show themselves well in the game without outside help in the form of the advantages of a separate nation.