“The Road to Better World War Matchmaking” aka Sandbagging!

[ColdestRage]

They leave Globals, show new Iron Age members the ropes , and then once they hit MA or GPA they kick out thos e members to be able to teach many more new to this game players.
Can't you see it happening?
Lol

 

[Radzeer]

Of course hostile, as you try to explain the unexplainable, and seems to not get the point at all.
The game is not killed by stalemates.
Stalemates were here long before, since WW was introduced.
Don't remember DW having sandbags back then.
Don't remember UA or USAE, 1st Dynasty having sandbags.
Now all have. And that is killing the game. And the worst thing is tha the top alliances as mentioned above are happily assisting.
I don't care if a second to loser alliance uses sandbags. But it is all different if a top alliance is doing that. DW was a highly respected alliance a few months ago, now I'm shocked that you joined the dark side. That is also, why I'm hostile.

About your argument, that it's our fault, that we have matched you: We have not rushed AA, my friend, as we have no one above 200. You have there guys having maxed AA defenses (didn't help, though, still 5 starred), we do not have a single AA defensive building. How do you think the match is fair? What did we rush? The match is completely unfair, while you included the sandbag accounts - 10% of your accounts are sandbags. Each member of your team is enjoying 10% XP advantage over our same ranked player. Your #1 is 220, I'm 199. That is 10% advantage. Your #1 has all defensive buildings, troops and all stuff maxed in AA, I have tanks and howitzers in AA, rest maxed in GA.
In the previous war against ChinaEmpire we had the same unfair match... average 20-25 XP level difference bar the last 3 Irons.
Was this again our fault?

 

[Radzeer]

Hey everyone. We've improved how we calculate Glory in World War. The Age of the players in a War has always modified the amount of Glory won or lost, and with this update those modifiers have been changed.

The end result is that Alliances who sandbag (bring several low Age players to War) will now be earning substantially less Glory from victory. Likewise, if your Alliance loses to a sandbagging Alliance, you will lose a lot less Glory than before. In the long run, this means sandbagging Alliances will no longer be at the top of the leaderboard.

As mentioned in a previous post, we will continue to monitor this problem. We will look to make additional changes as necessary, such as potentially changing how Alliances are matched with one another. Thanks.

Nb4powerup Any further info how it should be working? As it seems some of the sandbaggers are punished by it, some of them are not. In our matchup (against Dutch Warlords) they are getting away with 124 glory points (should get that amount by my calculations when they would play fair)

 

[Tijsie]

You’re making a lot of assumptions and conclusions that aren’t there. I never said the game is killed by stalemates. For your information, the game is killed by match making.

But I have to be very specific to make sense to you. So….. Some of your members has been rushing to AA, but in a different way. Their defenses are to weak and their troops are probably not maxed at all. Yes these are assumptions, I know. If they just stayed in GA you probably weren’t matched to us.

About levels being a problem. Your number 6 which has more than 20 lvl higher than the attacker has been put down by someone without extra troops, without attacking coalitions and in the GA. Yes that was me. You need some attacking skills and your bases should be redesigned.

I’m not feeling guilty of it all happening.

 

[Glacier]

Are you saying ACTIVE members with Iron bases are not allowed to war? Does nexon not want NEW players in this game? You mean to tell me this game has to have 400 different alliances running under the same management so we can separate the ages in war (Starter alliances if you will)? This game is becoming a full time job, smh.

People, there is a difference between real players and inactive accounts used just to sandbag with. We have brought up past Irons to EA as well as gunpowder and they are learning fast and doing well. We teach, tudor and help our lowers enjoy the game. I have no clue what other alliances do with their INACTIVE Irons they push through wars.

It is very apparent to me nexon is punishing not only the sandbaggers, but also the alliances that complained about it as well.

 

[Glacier]

Before this new update, our glory won from say a 12k glory alliance was 80 to 90 glory. Its 19 and 20 now >:-/ Why? Because we open up to new players in hopes they learn to enjoy DomiNations. How do ya grow a company? You expand thats how. I am very positive that is Nexon's goal, right? Growth = financial income.

I'm honestly starting to believe this company is run by 11 year olds. The actions put in to view points me in that direction.

 

[Glacier]

Hi all!

After reviewing the post, it's inline with what has already been posted on our forums. There is nothing new information wise that I saw.

Are there any details on what level base effects this new glory crap Nexon has implemented? I'm ||L125 EA|| and wish to know if I can still play this game with the current Alliance I am a member of! Will I need to join an Alliance made up of Enlightenment bases? I mean for real dudes, what gives?!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Glacier]

We don't sandbag yet now fall into Nexon's sandbag category, smh. So a more harsh punishment would hit us as well.

 

[Fable]

Nothing has changed ppl!

 

[zaibkhan]

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i have shown record of our last 5 wars and we have got total 11 glory points in last 5 consecutive wars and in our current war we are getting only 1 glory . we have tested with sand bags and without sand bags nothing has changed its now more worse matchmaking . we are being miss matched probably in every war .

 

[Europeos]

Radzeer, we have played a lot of alliances and I can tell you if there is a fair play alliance in the game it is Dutch Warlords. You might disagree with them, and us and many others, but that doesn't give you the right to insult.

 

[Europeos]

Really, offering less glory won't change anything.
Solving stalemates is the only way: in case of stalemates, a decider with only one attack per player would make using sandbags a huge disadvantage and probably solve both stalemates and sandbagging. And it's not difficult to implement.

 

[S_How]

Sorry but when the entire bottom of your roster is filled with iron ages that haven't been active for days, half of which are marked as council, you won't get much sympathy lol.

 

[S_How]

Glacier lol. I just had a look at VZ. All but 2 of your low age accounts are unplayed for days (I'm too lazy post the screenshot it). Quit pretending those accounts exist for any purpose other than for VZ to get easy matchups with little risk of loss. It's the perfect example of a team that doesn't have to sandbag to get matched, but does anyway in the hopes of getting cakewalk matches. Will also remind you that players are iron/classical/ma for a matter of days, and unless you're turning them over weekly you wouldn't have any problem with glory reductions next week when they aren't having such a dramatic effect on your war matchups.

 

[S_How]

Don't panic! I'm in an alli with atomic all the way down to ea players and it's had zero effect on us. You'd only have to worry if your war roster has unplayed/alt low age accounts at the bottom!

 

[S_How]

I agree that solving stalemates is a critical piece of solving it. Don't forget though, that while it doesn't apply to 1d, there are many teams that will continue to sandbag even if stalemates are solved because they thrive off of easy matches, even with slightly reduced glory. I think they will have to fix stalemates and concurrently punish sandbagging on an even greater way somehow.

 

[QuébecGlory]

I agree that making it harder to reach a perfect score by implicating the results of all players in the alliances would fix stalemates and sandbagging. The problem with just 1 attack is the ever-so-present crashes. A team can't lose a war on a crash...

In the end, Nexon needs to start listening to its base of players.... no players, no game, no revenue....this is where it's going. After the latest fix for sandbagging, now everybody is equally unhappy. Top teams are playing for 0 points and reduced loot, sandbaggers are playing for 2-3 points per war, and most others teams are faced with sandbaggers and keep losing... nice job Nexon...no winners!

 

[JuDomines]

Does someone from nexon/BGH (except nb4powerup..) actually read the players ideas and proposals? It's amazing they persist at amateurishly implementing a fix the vast majority of players are calling out as stupid (at best) while there are tons of better ideas mentioned in this forum? Can someone explain me what the proper feedback process is?!?

 

[Vixen]

BFisher ... please tell us you are reading and listening....

 

[poop_]

How do you "like" a comment? This is the real issue! Forget sandbagging! I want to be able to like comments! Nexon, get your priorities straight! I want something that 99% of the community doesn't care about, but you should address and fix because I am ME!