Guess Which Civilization Just Got Even Worse?

[kilgore_trout]

Poor greeks are now being hunted into extinction. I just received 2 scrolls for a 5 star battle, everyone must do their part. Lol

 

[danron1376]

i got my first coalition good in my first battle...yummy cheese from the french

i got 1 cheese. i think the max you can get of these new goods is 1 for each battle. and yes, you have to build an embassy

 

[Quovatis]

I can't find any greeks to attack

 

[BV123]

which nation did you switch to? i am greek as well but thinking of changing

I switched to Germans. They are more technical. In a sense you must know when and where to rally to fully utilise their benefits.

It was a close one between Germans and French for me.

 

[BV123]

Any reason you left out the Germans, raven?

 

[BV123]

I can't find any greeks to attack

The problem is that it is rare to find Greeks, Chinese or Japanese high up in the medal range.

Global guys will also find it hard competing with IA guys for the 3 rare IA nations. But IA guys on the other hand can still go for the 3 rare EA nations.

 

[BV123]

Seems like with this embassy thingy, nexon have inadvertently painted a big red target on the Greeks, Chinese and Japanese's backs. Buahahaha

 

[JMoney]

I actually think Mongols are just as equally useful and they cost British and German unique goods to get. An attack speed bonus on my artillery that allow it to attack faster than a tower and kill it before it can my artillery? Sign me up please! Heck I'm sure if you upgraded Mongols enough at the armory you could kill a mortar that is the same age as a demolition tactic of the same age. If you kill all four mortars with demolition then the howitzers/artillery are basically uncontested and have that attack speed bonus as well, as long as the rest of your units keep them alive.

 

[danron1376]

Poor greeks are now being hunted into extinction. I just received 2 scrolls for a 5 star battle, everyone must do their part. Lol

oh, nice to see you can get more than 1 trade good.

 

[Ravenlord]

Good question ......

 

[Ravenlord]

I built the embassy on one of my nations - now I've gotten some goods. Now to find out if you can only use them in wars .....

 

[Toast]

yeah the coalitions can only be used during wars and the ones you have active only last for 1 war. you then need to 'buy' them with the new trade goods again.

 

[ivan.]

I thought the same thing as soon as I read the details on how embassy goods are acquired. All they're doing in effect is punishing those that play as rarer nations and encouraging them to flock towards the herd of more popular ones. I thought playing as a Greek over a year was bad enough but now they've put us in the crosshairs of constant kitchen sink attacks.

Yall should be happy for the few that painstakingly play as Greece or there wouldn't be any scrolls in the game otherwise. Maybe a day of recognition for our honorable service would suffice.

 

[Mythic]

It seems like the required nation goods rotate once in awhile, so I think this thread is rather meaningless.

 

[Jo-jo]

They do indeed rotate, and that will help a little when the rare nations have a trade good for an unpopular coalition. But the Greeks are so rare players will hunt them to save the trade good for later.

 

[Laughingor]

I am one of the few Empire League players bloody-minded, or just plain stupid, enough to persist in playing Greeks. Their flaws are well-known, so they are a deservedly unpopular choice (except apparently among patriotic real-life Greeks). But rather than try to address these shortcomings somehow, the design team has, amazingly, found a way to make the Greeks suck even harder with the 4.1 update.

Players will now be able to "Collect 8 new National Trade Goods by defeating different Nations in multiplayer battle!" I don't think I'm going too far out on a limb in predicting that the goods from civilizations like the British and French are going to be relatively easy to find. Trade goods from less popular civilizations are going to be rarer, especially in the higher medal ranges where power players tend to congregate. Now, the players who will be most interested in acquiring national trade goods will be serious world warriors, players who are experts at 5-starring. So Greeks, by virtue of their very unpopularity, are going to be targets of choice for highly-skilled, highly-motivated attackers. Greeks can expect fewer attacks that just snipe the town center and then quit and more everything-but-the-kitchen-sink 5-star attempts.

I don't know if the design team deliberately set up incentives to pick on the unpopular civilizations in order to encourage people to spend crowns changing, or if they just didn't think things through. Either way, it seems like this update kicks the civilizations that were already suboptimal when they're down.

All trade good requirements for the coalitions will be switch every week! Means your greek trade good will not always attract Aztec to come for coalition. This is not an issue now. Instead, good addition

 

[Ravenlord]

1 war? So you've got to raid a lot between wars to get them - doesn't seem like a worthwhile game add-on to me ..... but that's just me!

Although the fact that the goods required for coalitions changes weekly is a good idea ...

 

[Magnifico]

All trade good requirements for the coalitions will be switch every week! Means your greek trade good will not always attract Aztec to come for coalition. This is not an issue now. Instead, good addition

The scrolls are always going to be rare, because Greeks will be hard to find. Maybe the coalition(s) the scrolls are used for won't be especially desirable in a given week, but people are still going to want to stock up on scrolls in case the next week they are crucial for world wars. So while having the goods rotate is a good idea, I don't think it will do much to remove the giant target from Greek bases.

 

[ElDucky]

But with Global age the Greeks can now finish upgrades 50 minutes early!

 

[Magnifico]

But with Global age the Greeks can now finish upgrades 50 minutes early!

It was only 45 minutes.

Yeah, "was". Having engineered my production to free up all my workers at once for a revolution, I have now done my part to make scrolls a little harder to obtain.

I had my fill of getting picked on for being unpopular in high school. I don't need it in this game.