Lets talk HeavyTank Troop Composition and Tactics!

[Aitor-NationsLeague]

Using as French:

1 HT 5 Tank 3 Art 2 Healer 20 Rifle 3 Triplane

But not liking it more than 6 Tank 3 Art 3 Healer 27 Rifle 3 Triplane? French tanks...

Will this work: 1 HT 6 Tank 3 Art 2 Healer 10 Rifle 3 Triplane? or 1 HT 6 Tank 3 Art 3 Healer 3 Rifle 3 Tri? 1 HT 6 Tank 3 Art 24 Rifle 3 Triplane?

I just give a bunch of options, lol. I would like my army to be simmetrical between all 3 barracks if possible...

 

[Max_imus]

Using as French:

1 HT 5 Tank 3 Art 2 Healer 20 Rifle 3 Triplane

But not liking it more than 6 Tank 3 Art 3 Healer 27 Rifle 3 Triplane? French tanks...

Will this work: 1 HT 6 Tank 3 Art 2 Healer 10 Rifle 3 Triplane? or 1 HT 6 Tank 3 Art 3 Healer 3 Rifle 3 Tri? 1 HT 6 Tank 3 Art 24 Rifle 3 Triplane?

I just give a bunch of options, lol. I would like my army to be simmetrical between all 3 barracks if possible...

Amazing you need so few rifles,I guess you know how to manage your air attacks! And those mk3 triplanes are really good(plus statue if im not mistaken)
You can try even less, but I prefer to lose more rifles than to lose artie or healer due to small number of rifles...otoh Im not so good with the planes

 

[Aitor-NationsLeague]

Amazing you need so few rifles,I guess you know how to manage your air attacks! And those mk3 triplanes are really good(plus statue if im not mistaken)
You can try even less, but I prefer to lose more rifles than to lose artie or healer due to small number of rifles...otoh Im not so good with the planes

No no, isn't that I don't need, I ask for that, just to see if you see it viable?

6 Tank 3 Art 3 Healer 27 Rifle is my golden standard, just because it divides between all 3 barracks!! It's so elegant, in a click I retrain... And I like simmetrical things as well too, lol.

 

[Max_imus]

No no, isn't that I don't need, I ask for that, just to see if you see it viable?

6 Tank 3 Art 3 Healer 27 Rifle is my golden standard, just because it divides between all 3 barracks!! It's so elegant, in a click I retrain... And I like simmetrical things as well too, lol.

I meant this composition, because I usually use like 40 rifles or more. OTOH its because I dont use regular tanks, only 1 or 2 HT and some hussars or lancers from donate.For me it is not viable,but if you can manage those triplanes so great then you should give it a shot!

 

[Aitor-NationsLeague]

I meant this composition, because I usually use like 40 rifles or more. OTOH its because I dont use regular tanks, only 1 or 2 HT and some hussars or lancers from donate.For me it is not viable,but if you can manage those triplanes so great then you should give it a shot!

How is your full army composition then and which civ are you?

 

[icebergler]

Anyone research (buy) the Heavy Tank MK3 yet? Seems like a pretty huge hp and damage boost. With Brandenburg gate, the HT mk3's health goes from 24,200 to 27,830hp (15% increase) and its damage goes from 1320 to 1452 per second (10% increase). Pretty awesome! Realistically I probably a month before all the upgrades I need are finished. I will need my City Center, Oil refinery, factory, Armory, and HT MK3 all upgraded!

Would love to watch a video or hear about the HT MK3 in action. Does the added firepower change the way you use them?

 

[Mr Suplex]

I finally took another stab at this after initially hating the heavy tank, and after many different combos I've found this army to work well as a German player:

20 Wehrmacht, 20 Rifles, 2 Tanks, 1 Heavy Tank, 4 Artillery, 2 Supply Trucks

My "standard' army is the following and I still think it performs a bit better:

27 Wehrmacht, 28 Rifles, 3 Tanks, 4 Artillery, 2 Supply Trucks

 

[Max_imus]

I finally took another stab at this after initially hating the heavy tank, and after many different combos I've found this army to work well as a German player:

20 Wehrmacht, 20 Rifles, 2 Tanks, 1 Heavy Tank, 4 Artillery, 2 Supply Trucks

My "standard' army is the following and I still think it performs a bit better:

27 Wehrmacht, 28 Rifles, 3 Tanks, 4 Artillery, 2 Supply Trucks

Wow so much wehrmacht soldiers,why is that?

 

[Mr Suplex]

Wow so much wehrmacht soldiers,why is that?

They are cheap and strong. Contrary to popular belief, shock infantry is actually useful. They have great damage, can absorb alot more damage than riflemen, and tear down walls and enemy tanks very quickly.

For reference, 4 Wehrmacht troopers have more DPS than a Heavy Tank, and benefit from the Armor blessing.

 

[Max_imus]

They are cheap and strong. Contrary to popular belief, shock infantry is actually useful. They have great damage, can absorb alot more damage than riflemen, and tear down walls and enemy tanks very quickly.

For reference, 4 Wehrmacht troopers have more DPS than a Heavy Tank, and benefit from the Armor blessing.

Interesting, I dont kniw how they would fit into my army tho (1HT,2tanks,4arties,2trucks,rest rifles). And I really tried things with my preatorian fussiliers

 

[Magnifico]

They are cheap and strong. Contrary to popular belief, shock infantry is actually useful. They have great damage, can absorb alot more damage than riflemen, and tear down walls and enemy tanks very quickly.

For reference, 4 Wehrmacht troopers have more DPS than a Heavy Tank, and benefit from the Armor blessing.

Do you think you'll still want to use Wehrmacht/Volksgrenadiers once you have access to bazookas? Good vs. walls and tanks? Check. Granted, they might fall down a bit as far as "cheap" goes.

 

[Mr Suplex]

Yeah, Bazookas do look good. They actually look OP to me from what I've seen so far. Time will tell as I won't have access to them for a few months at least.

A big part of the appeal for me with shock infantry is their cheap cost and fast build time, so Bazookas likely won't replace my current army. I honestly don't care if my shock infantry die each battle, as they are fully built again in minutes. They typically have casualty rates above 80% but do a ton of damage and shield my more valuable units before they die. I swear by them and honestly don't see why more people don't use them.

 

[Königsberg]

I don't think Bazookas are overpowered. They only got a range of 3 meaning their dead really quick. Unfortunately. A range of 4 would be nice. Plus they also take 4 troop spaces so it will be tough to fit them in especially as there is no barrack upgrade in global age.

 

[Ravenlord]

Being French I don't know why you bother with the HT - your regular tanks are tuff enuff.

 

[Ravenlord]

Your army combo - with the exception of NO healers - is what I use too. And I also like the footsies. With the strength bonus from a win a bunch of them can mow down buildings/towers very quickly. Coupled with the quicker rallies, the German footsie is very underrated.

 

[Max_imus]

That was Aitor comment, I play for romans

 

[Max_imus]

I don't think Bazookas are overpowered. They only got a range of 3 meaning their dead really quick. Unfortunately. A range of 4 would be nice. Plus they also take 4 troop spaces so it will be tough to fit them in especially as there is no barrack upgrade in global age.

I think that barracks shoul not get an upgrade.Army of150 is big enough (game wise and for not crashing) and Im not talking about all those fancy donations,mercenary and special stuff from events

 

[icebergler]

I agree about the Barracks upgrade. As a Roman player the larger Army size is a competitive advantage. For everyone else, Heavy Tanks are not a good option right now because they take up too much space. But if everyone got to 150, many more players would use them...so for me I'd rather have fewer troops but limit others to non-HT strategies.

Also as far as Bazookas go, they actually have a bunch of HP. At,. 1728 (without Versailles) they have 2x more strength then the machine gunner and almost as strong as the Commando. Check out this all Bazooka video, it looks like they walk through walls! Start around 7 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVVQpPtm2sE

 

[Max_imus]

Yep,its very much possible that they will nerf bazookas when lot of people starts complaining
I think that bazooka and howitzers are too strong and should be reworked to balance the armys compositions more! Im sick to still see 4 tanks 5 arties 3 healers and rest rifles, a bit of variability would be nice

P.s. and we are not even talking about that OP stuff from library for bazookas

 

[Vissor]

Wtf bazooka lol...remineds me the times of the heavy cavalry.... Nerf is coming