Lets talk HeavyTank Troop Composition and Tactics!

[Mr Suplex]

As an update to this thread, I am now a fan of the heavy tank and have been rolling with it fairly regularly. My 20 Wehrmacht, 20 rifles, 2 tank, 1 heavy, 4 artillery, 2 supply truck, 3 plane army has been performing quite well. At first I didn't like that the heavy didn't go after towers like normal tanks, but now I've switched my opinion and actually like that they don't do this, as they end up staying with the rest of the army and protecting it better.

Thanks for this thread and for pushing me to keep experimenting with this unit to get it to work. I can't wait for that Warfare library upgrade to increase its attack speed 15%!

 

[Gargantuar]

Am sometimes amazed, sometimes disappointed by the lack of love shown to heavy tanks. They are super awesome. I was pretty comfortable with 5 HT MK1s, 1 biplane mk1 and 1 zeppelin mk1 (few alpinis for mop-up in the end). As am upgrading them their awesomeness only increases .

Awesomeness 1
1 HT = 2 cannons of firepower + 2 light tanks worth durability + 15 riflemen worth defender eliminating capability (with splash damage) .So 1 HT is one man army in itself. In battle they should be trusted to do their job, and they will do.

Awesomeness 2
No rallies. Usually in a battle they do not required to be rallied (once in a blue moon maybe) . This removes mental clutter of using the rally button.

Awesomeness 3
Lean fighting force with no flab. Just five units to launch in battle, gives more time to achieve that elusive quick victory star in first minute.

Awesomeness 4
You might forget there is a retrain button in the game No retraining means no training blessing to waste cider and diamond on. Ciders are my prime currency to buy mahouts.

Awesomeness 5
Gold and Food just keeps accumulating with my HT army. Not that industrial players will be concerned with it, but its a plus.

Awesomeness 6
You might also forget what a three star victory looks like, as it will be a memory of distant past

 

[Magnifico]

In what medal range are you playing? It's not difficult to steamroll bases in the lower levels, but if this works in, say, Empire III I'll have to try it.

 

[Gargantuar]

Am playing in 1700 medal range at present. Empire is too far for me right now. Moreover it's dominated with cheaters, so I will be going max 2200 medals , that too to get those crowns

 

[Max_imus]

This will not work from Gold I, not even talking about those crazy Kingdom bases ...because you would need to nexting for ages to find a base you could sweep all defensive buildings

 

[Gargantuar]

Just crossed from gold 1 to kingdom . My army comp is currently 5 HT mk2, 2 artillery , rest alpinis. 1 biplane mk1, 1 zep. On the contrary to not finding bases, am finding far more bases in kingdom 3. Guess its because a lot of GP/EA defense players just somehow want to make it to kingdom 3 atleast. Above 2k is looking good place for those HTs to park their huge a*se lol

 

[Mr Suplex]

You are going to hit a wall going all in on heavy tanks. They simply cannot kill everything fast enough to be usable in large amounts like that. But see how far you can go before it doesn't work anymore.

 

[BV123]

I have been saving/using my oil for airstrip/planes upgrades. I'm on my last few upgrades. Reading all the hypes here, I think I'm going to start my factory/HT next.

Honestly, I'm not going to use HTs until I get it up to a respectable level. Hope it's going to perform as well as what you guys are saying.

Before this the only experience I have with HTs is by using betrayal. Looks promising.

 

[Gargantuar]

OK guys, the max i have gone with HTs is 2009. I positively believe I can cross kingdom to empire, just for the heck of it if I wanted to. The trick is not in the army composition, but how we fight with HTs. 6 HTs plus two zeppelins (global age, upgrade airstrip) can definitely work till empire 3 for the persevering player IMHO.

Am changing course and planning to stay in gold 3/silver 1 for some time now, as I need lots of gold fast. In these leagues battles last for two mins, with no troops lost. The game play is lot more fun here. Climbing the ranks is extremely boring after a point. Gotta upgrade my stables, towers, air defense, walls, build bunkers , and want to enjoy faster and fun game play while doing it . Will be oscillating in silver/gold league for a awhile. Lets see where the game goes from there on.

 

[Mr Suplex]

I have been saving/using my oil for airstrip/planes upgrades. I'm on my last few upgrades. Reading all the hypes here, I think I'm going to start my factory/HT next.

Honestly, I'm not going to use HTs until I get it up to a respectable level. Hope it's going to perform as well as what you guys are saying.

Before this the only experience I have with HTs is by using betrayal. Looks promising.

I hated them for a long time, as you can see in this thread. But I've eventually come to really like them. They are an excellent vanguard to my assault. I get a special joy watching a ton of defending troops and cavalry swarm them, just to get vaporized in one shot.

They are completely unusable before the splash damage upgrade, and I really recommend waiting until the MK2 if you can.

I can't wait for the Global Age upgrade that increases their fire rate 15%. They are going to be even more nuts at that point.

 

[BV123]

I hated them for a long time, as you can see in this thread. But I've eventually come to really like them. They are an excellent vanguard to my assault. I get a special joy watching a ton of defending troops and cavalry swarm them, just to get vaporized in one shot.

They are completely unusable before the splash damage upgrade, and I really recommend waiting until the MK2 if you can.

I can't wait for the Global Age upgrade that increases their fire rate 15%. They are going to be even more nuts at that point.

Awesome

 

[Jo-jo]

Completely agree. Heavy tank isn't ready until you have splash damage.

 

[icebergler]

So after the update, the big question is: How great or not so great is the 15% HT speed boost? and How much better in battle are MK3 HT's? I am researching 15% HT boost now but would love to hear from anyone who already has it.

 

[Mr Suplex]

So after the update, the big question is: How great or not so great is the 15% HT speed boost? and How much better in battle are MK3 HT's? I am researching 15% HT boost now but would love to hear from anyone who already has it.

Assuming the developers do their math correctly (I'm starting to question this), the benefit should be obvious: A 15% increase in the tank's damage output. On paper its pretty huge, so assuming the developers can calculate things correctly, it should be a game changing upgrade.

 

[Gargantuar]

You are going to hit a wall going all in on heavy tanks. They simply cannot kill everything fast enough to be usable in large amounts like that. But see how far you can go before it doesn't work anymore.

STATE OF MY NATION : For the past two months i have been using all HTs (or 5HTs 2 artillery + alpinis ) army now and can comfortably cross from gold league to kingdom (have done this thrice). Have reached furthest to 2028 medals but am hitting a different kind of wall. The wall of stupid unexplained medal loss system. One fine morning i came down from 2011 to 1978 overnight . I was in a 15 hour peace treaty so no question of losing these medals to genuine attacks. Somewhere between 2000 to 2028 range, this horrible loss of 30 something medals triggers.

My belief in all HT army can go all the way to empire league is still intact and for past two weeks this is what i've been trying to accomplish. But it seems Nexon is throwing in more challenges than anybody else with their unexplained medal losses. Seems like they don't want me to get 1000 crowns .

 

[Ravenlord]

Read this thread - it will explain why you're having medal losses.
https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexo...iscussion-aa/519274-unexplained-medals-losses

 

[Ravenlord]

I know!! I've just seen this vid and I was like
It's crazy that it's taken all this time to get back to having a unit as powerful as a tank - which was THE TANK btw - and the unit turns out to be a footman!! Seriously Nexon ???!!!

 

[Gargantuar]

Is there a way to like your comment Ravenlord .
It saved me so much of heartache and thanks for pointing to this thread.

Making noise helps than sitting in and getting frustrated.

 

[Mythic]

For what it's worth, I just got 1 starred by 6 Roman HT. He did take almost 4K oil though. I don't even have Versailles.

 

[Ravenlord]

Just happy to help. If my pain and suffering and ''oh whoa is me'' lamentations (he says with hand on forehead) can help others then my job is done.